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Masai Ujiri shoved and struck cop

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by Carl Herrera, Jun 14, 2019.

  1. arno_ed

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    Yeah is was even calm after the first shove. He calmly tried to explain who he was. I cannot believe anybody can watch this footage and complain that Masai did anything wrong. This was 100% on the security guy. There was no reason for that first shove or the escalation and both were caused by the security guy. Disgusting if he did not get fired. Pure trash.
     
  2. clutchdabear

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    hopefully this bad cop is starting a century long curse for the warriors.
     
  3. TimDuncanDonaut

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    People saying that cop makes like 220k a year. F'n up that kind of a gig with ignorance.
     
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  4. Reeko

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    220k? Yeah right. He must be embezzling money or committing more fraud.
     
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    No its actually quite plausible. Cops in the Bay Area can start with 6 figures when they join the force. The absurd cost of living more or less requires it. In the Bay Area, the threshold for low income families is anything below $117,000.

    Police officers also get overtime. And a lot of police departments find "creative" ways to generate overtime opportunities. They audited San Jose and found that the highest paid government employees were police officers (some of whom were making more than $400,000 a year). Much of that was overtime because the base pay is only around $100,000 or less. Combine that with California's extremely generous pensions and an officer can retire with a 6 figure pension in their 50s. The whole system is screwed up there.
     
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  6. Reeko

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    Cops out here getting doctor level salaries? That’s disgusting
     
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  7. Dr of Dunk

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    Depends on what you consider "doctor level" salaries in the Bay Area (San Francisco/Oakland is what I'm talking about, to be precise). Making $200k in the Bay area is probably chump change. The cost of living there is insane. If you're making $60k in the Houston area, you'd probably need to make $120k out there for the same quality of life and that's probably not including owning a home. I think the median home price out there is around $1 million. It's just one of the reasons so many companies are leaving California and why so many tech companies pay in salary as well as stock options.
     
  8. Reeko

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    I’m aware, but a 200k salary is still close to the average annual salary for a primary care physician in cities like NY or SF

    there’s also this

    New York and Boston are meccas of world renowned medical schools and teaching hospitals. That may help explain why reported salaries there are less than many other areas of the country. For instance, in New York, physicians in internal medicine pull down $234,000 a year, or about $14,000 less than national average. One theory is that many doctors in those cities go into academic medicine, which typically pays less.

    Meanwhile, the most desirable cities where doctors like to work -- Los Angeles, San Francisco and Washington, D.C. -- are also among the lowest paying. In fact, the average salary for primary care physicians in D.C. ranked last, coming in 17% below the national average.

    Some cop who might not have even finished college is in the same tax bracket as doctors? That is crazy
     
  9. Dr of Dunk

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    lol. I'd hate to see what you think about software developers then. Many of them never went to or graduated college and are banking. Also don't look at what plumbers, AC techs etc. may make if they start their own "companies". A degree just may mean you have a big loan to pay back. :D The last job most people want to do is be a cop or firefighter because of the danger potentially involved. I never felt unsafe walking into a hospital when I worked in one... well, until now. lol.
     
  10. Reeko

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    doctors go through almost a decade of schooling after college...a cop making the same as them is just ridiculous

    cost of living doesn’t fly either when doctors are seeing lower salaries in cities like NY and SF
     
  11. Dr of Dunk

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    The "cost of living" was in comment to people thinking $200k out there is a ton of money or something ... especially if involving overtime. Most people out there are underpaid, but many live there because of the weather and lifestyle. If I was a doctor making under $200k out there, I'd be looking to move, but that's just me.

    Also, the "years of college" argument means nothing to me. It just means you went to school for a lot of money and as a result may have a big loan you need to pay back in a location that doesn't pay well compared to the cost-of-living. That's on "you". Maybe you should go be a cop. Of course that would probably drive cop salaries down. Haha. Supply/demand. But most occupations there are underpaid so they're attracted in different ways. In the tech industry, salaries can be really high if you're really good (like the $200-$300k software devs at Google/Facebook/etc) or there are other benefits like stock options the tech industry uses to attract good talent there. But a lot of those people are leaving because of the cost of living.

    BTW, I know of a cop in the DFW area who "apparently" works for the Secret Service and SWAT at least part-time (? not sure how that works) and he pulls in "only" $120k/year, I think (as of a few years ago). You couldn't pay me twice that much to go through the potential hell he has to go through. There are people in the computer industry working 5-hour days , if that, making that much sitting around pretending to be indispensible. :) When Java was a new programming language back around the mid-90's, there were people turning down $300 PER HOUR jobs because they already had enough work. I knew nurses pulling in $100-$120k back in the early 90's. I could never do their job, either. It's not that big a deal. It's all relative and works both ways. There are inefficiencies or perceived inefficiencies everywhere.

    But I'm probably not going to convince you, so ... cops bad, doctors good. Me go now. :D
     
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  12. Icehouse

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    I wouldn’t say it’s ridiculous. Cops are asked to put their lives on the line to protect us. I’d say that’s pretty valuable.
     
  13. DaDakota

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    Well, they chose to work for a socialist construct like the police they are free to leave and try to make a living in the private sector any time they like.

    DD
     
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    They want more money to wear their short bicycle shorts while they bike around or tend to their police horses. Pay the stable boys. Lulz
     
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    Look at the shock in his face.

    Imagine working so hard your entire life to get to the top of your profession, and some ******* cop takes a **** on what is supposed to be a moment of extreme happiness.

    sickening.
     
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    I'm not sure that sounds screwed up to me. I think what's screwed up is that many of the positions we need to fill with quality people the most, teachers, social workers, police officers, etc, are generally relegated to damn near poverty. I also think a lot of the problems we are seeing in police departments is because it's hard to fill low paying jobs with the most highly qualified, competent, capable people.
     
  17. Easy

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    Well, most NBA players have no college degrees and they are making millions playing a game. That's pretty ridiculous too, right? Just saying.
     
  18. Reeko

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    bad comparison...they are the top 1% of their craft and bring in millions in revenue...NBA player is a highly specialized field with a very limited number of people capable of doing it
     
  19. Easy

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    I knew you'd say that. I understand the law of supply and demand. But you were talking about years of schooling. Some academic jobs require more schooling than doctors and make a lot less. Doctors make a lot of money mainly not because of the length of their schooling but because (1) not that many people are capable of getting through the training and (2) because their service is in high demand.

    What is lost when talking about "who bring how much revenue" is that the value of properties firefighters protect, the value of lives teachers build, or the value of the potential loss from the crimes police prevent etc. are not being considered in the equation.
     
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  20. Icehouse

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    How did Lowry wind up with the game ball is the question.
     

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