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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. vlaurelio

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    @djt @maga
     
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    Honestly I still don't get your point. "America isn't a democracy" is an incorrect statement regardless if it was expressed on Twitter or not.
     
  3. Rashmon

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    I see this news seems to make at least one moderate Democrat feel the need to trumpet the claim with some glee...
     
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    Incorrect statements WILL be made on twitter. That can't be news to any one of us.
     
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    It shouldn't be "news" when a rando does it. It's a bit note worthy when the campaign manager for the incumbent president says innacurate stuff.
     
  7. s3ts

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    So, breaking news to people who have not yet smelled the coffee.

    In general, if I see a 5-10 min clip on facebook or some form of media, I usually ask for more information -- because that's not enough for me to understand the intricate details to establish my moral/political compass on.

    If I see something on twitter where it takes 10 seconds or less for me to process it -- it's typically nonsense.

    My standard is 50-min documentaries that actually discuss the details, discuss both sides of the issue, and disclose the conundrum fully. Even then, I want to watch one from both sides of the coin.

    Needless to say, a 7th day adventist or a Jehova Witness that come to my front door asking for 5-10 minutes to convert, I tell them that's clearly not enough time for me to decide my eternity. If they ask for more time, I tell them I'm still worried about the next 3 months of my life, and I'll go look it up on google before I talk to someone about it for 5-10 minutes.
     
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    Not sure what you're getting at -- I already called Trump an idiot for using it.

    People are very divided, and you shouldn't feed into it by pointing out some idiot follower of a narrow political spectrum, ridiculing it, and saying somehow that this person represents all of the people in the other political spectrum. Why? Because that's what the people on the other side are also doing.

    I'm honestly trying to help the left -- be patient and open-minded to help people make the right decisions, and get the voters to the booths to get your candidate elected.

    Win the votes in the states you need to win the election, CONVINCE the people in those states that Biden is the right candidate instead of saying they're all mentally disabled.
     
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    it's way easier to just insult people and call them names
     
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    I will also point out that the Trafalgar Group is a Republican polling operations.

    That said the Emerson polls showed the race tightening in Minnesota and there is a recent Rasmussen poll showing Trump's approval rating is at 51%. Note Rasmussen has been accused of having a Republican bias.

    At the moment I'm not going to consider these polls definitive but they may show that the CNN poll from a few days ago might not be as much of an outlier.
     
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    Okay....

    The campaign manager for the president says we don't love in a democracy. I don't know what this has to do with "being open minded".
     
  13. vlaurelio

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    FIFY MAGA
     
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    Cuomo signed the legislation:

    https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/512925-cuomo-signs-bill-to-expand-absentee-voting-in-new-york

     
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    Uh... Hillary LOST the last election after winning the popular vote. That's the point. It's also why Bush won vs Al Gore.

    Stop shoving polls down my throat, do the due diligence of locking down votes in the states that matter to the campaign because not all votes are equal.

    That's what I mean by "being open-minded".

    It doesn't make twitter any smarter, and you're right that they're stupid -- it's just that there's some truths to that which has definitely hurt the left quite a bit. To shrug it off because they're stupid and not be critical of the DNC for their inability to run a successful campaign is being straight ignorant.
     
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    Sir this is a Wendy's.
     
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    50 GOP national security leaders--notably including three former senior Trump DHS officials--agree that "Donald Trump has failed our country and that Vice President Joe Biden should be elected the next President of the United States."


    A STATEMENT BY FORMER REPUBLICAN NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS

    1. Donald Trump has gravely damaged America’s role as a world leader. Trump has disgraced America’s global reputation and undermined our nation’s moral and diplomatic influence. He has called NATO “obsolete,” branded Europe a “foe,” mocked the leaders of America’s closest friends, and threatened to terminate longstanding US alliances. Other global leaders, friends and foes alike, view him as unreliable, unstable, and unworthy of respect.
    2. Donald Trump has shown that he is unfit to lead during a national crisis. Instead of rallying the American people and the world to confront the coronavirus, Trump has spent the past half year spreading misinformation, undermining public health experts, attacking state and local officials, and wallowing in self-pity. He has demonstrated far greater concern about the fate of his reelection than the health of the American people.
    3. Donald Trump has solicited foreign influence and undermined confidence in our presidential elections. Trump publicly asked Russian president Vladimir Putin to assist his 2016 campaign, called on Chinese president Xi Jinping to “start an investigation” into his current political opponent, and pressured the president of Ukraine to act against his opponent. Citing exaggerated claims of voter fraud, he has challenged the integrity of this year’s election, even suggesting that it be postponed.
    4. Donald Trump has aligned himself with dictators and failed to stand up for American values. Trump has regularly praised the actions of dictators and human rights abusers. He proclaimed his “love” and “great respect” for North Korean strongman Kim Jong Un, endorsed “brilliant leader” Xi Jinping’s move to serve as China’s president for life, repeatedly sided with Vladimir Putin against our own intelligence community, and pronounced himself a “big fan” of Turkish president Recep Erdogan despite his crackdown on democracy.
    5. Donald Trump has disparaged our armed forces, intelligence agencies, and diplomats. Trump has attacked Gold Star families, scoffed at American prisoners of war, interfered in the military justice system, and embroiled our military in domestic politics. He has ridiculed US intelligence agencies and falsely branded our nation’s diplomats as the “deep state.”
    6. Donald Trump has undermined the rule of law. Trump has compromised the independence of the Department of Justice, repeatedly attacked federal judges, and punished government officials who have sought to uphold the law. To protect himself from accountability, he has fired officials who launched investigations or testified against him, threatened whistleblowers, dangled pardons as incentives to stay silent, and blocked prison time for a political crony convicted of lying on his behalf. He has impugned journalists investigating his misconduct and has repeatedly denounced the press as the “enemy of the people.”
    7. Donald Trump has dishonored the office of the presidency. Trump engages in childish name-calling, mocks the disabled, belittles women, persistently lies, peddles baseless conspiracy theories, and continually embarrasses Americans in the eyes of the world.
    8. Donald Trump has divided our nation and preached a dark and pessimistic view of America. Trump consistently seeks to incite political, racial, and ethnic divisions, weakening our nation and delighting our adversaries. In contrast to Reagan’s vision of America as a “shining city on a hill,” Trump speaks of “American carnage,” pits Americans against each other, and stokes fears that “angry mobs” and “anarchists” are destroying our country.
    9. Donald Trump has attacked and vilified immigrants to our country. Trump routinely denigrates immigrants and inflames prejudices as he seeks support for his reelection. Despite America’s legacy as a nation of immigrants, he has demonized Americans who come from other countries, even telling members of Congress whose families immigrated to the United States to “go back” to the “crime-infested places” from which they came.
    10. Donald Trump has imperiled America’s security by mismanaging his national security team. Trump has dismissed or replaced — often by tweet — the secretaries of State, Defense, and Homeland Security, the Attorney General, the Directors of National Intelligence and the FBI, three National Security Advisors, and other senior officials in critical national security positions, many because they refused to cover for his misdeeds or demonstrate sufficient personal loyalty.
    https://www.defendingdemocracytogether.org/national-security/
     
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  19. Nippystix

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    Yea, when will the libtards and snowflakes understand?

    Let's go back to voting for and defending that very much does NOT "insult people and call them names."
     
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    geez that's serious
     
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