Kamala Harris compares ICE to KKK

A lot of white supremacists do work for ICE just like how a lot of white supremacists are in law enforcement.

These proffesions tend to attract certain types of people from my experience seeing many of my peers who espouse white nationalist rhetoric joining law enforcement after they were out.

Also let's not pretend ICE is some institutional bedrock of American society. It was created after the authoritarian power grab by our government with the Patriot Act. Homeland Security and ICE should be abolished.

 

So when did she compare ICE to the KKK?

The analogy is bunk but ICE does cause real fears in certain communities.

 

Well there is the fact that many white nationalists do work in ICE.

Honestly, I wish some of you guys had access to closed off facebook groups catered towards military combat veterans and law enforcement. I know many know of the Border Patrol facebook group fiasco. That **** is common place.

https://www.revealnews.org/article/...t-memes-conspiracy-theories-and-islamophobia/

Law enforcement culture in this country is toxic as **** and it sickens me that large groups of people worship them as heros.

 

Please point out in that contentious exchange where Harris compared ICE to the KKK.

I'll wait....

 

There are many white nationalist that work everywhere, still does not make ICE the KKK and nobody of any authority should say it considering all employees are not the same.

So now it's ok to paint everybody with the same brush?

 

I never said it was. I'm just giving a more accurate description based off my experience.

And white nationalists might be "everywhere" but the point is that they disproportionately flock to law enforcement as a proffesion.

Reading comprehension goes a long way. Read my words carefully. You love to extrapolate claims that aren't there.

So where did I say ICE is KKK?

 

Who is asking for a accurate description of anything?

I have worked in Law Enforcement myself and know plenty, what was the purpose of this.

I see you just want to argue and want tp pick a fight.

Reading comprehension indeed?

 

This is so sad.

I have tissues available if the mean black lady words hurt you too badly.

 

What type of logic is this? Who is asking for your input? Who is telling you to type here?

I gave my perception because I thought it was relevant to discussion. Dude you have some serious issues lashing out at people for merely expressing their perspective.

Is the only thing that can be typed in this thread without you getting offended is a direct answer to the thread title? Like no further elaboration of the subject matter is welcomed? When did this become a thing in D&D?

 

unless OP can explain

how he went from this

Harris: "Are you aware that there’s a perception that ICE is administering its power in a way that is causing fear and intimidation, particularly among immigrants and specifically among immigrants coming from Mexico and Central America? Are you aware of that perception?
Sir, how can you be the head of an agency and be unaware of how your agency is perceived by certain communities?"

to

Harris: "ICE=KKK"

then this thread be closed or at the very least have it's title changed

@mods

 

I was going to support Biden but this is a game changer.

 

OP got his marching orders from some alt right/supremacist source

or he is just awfully defensive

 

I haven't seen the actual comparison.

That being said, if I did see it, I wouldn't be bothered by it. I mean in some ways ICE is worse since it is a government instituation and Trump is using to support his racism. So I wouldn't be bothered by it at all.

That being said, I've seen no evidence that the comparison was made.

 

the title is not OP's, but the title from the IWF. If you follow the linked article from that site, you'll get the video of the entire exchange plus the transcript:

SEN. KAMALA HARRIS: Thank you Mr. Chairman, and I’d like to emphasize your point. This is a hearing to determine who will be the next head of ICE, so this is about reviewing the perspectives, the qualifications, and the experience of the nominee. So, that being said, I think, Mr. Vitellio [sic], that you would agr- -- have I pronounced your name correctly?

RONALD VITIELLO: Vitiello [pronounced “Vitello”].

HARRIS: Vitiello.

VITIELLO: Thank you.

HARRIS: I think you would agree as a member of law enforcement that law enforcement generally speaking —and certainly it would be the case with ICE officers and agents — that a great deal of your power is discretionary. You have limited resources and you make decisions about what you’re gonna do, but you exercise a great deal of discretion in terms of how you are going to use the limited resources and how you are gonna prioritize them.

And then, understanding that, I think you would also agree that one’s perspective and their bias, if they have bias, will influence their exercise of discretion in terms of the power they have and how it will be used and implemented. So I want to return to the question that Senator Peters asked you about the statement you made describing the Democratic Party as “liberalcratic” or “NeoKlanist,” which was -- I think the assumption there was that you were comparing it to the Klu, Ku Klux Klan -- Klu [sic] Klux Klan, the KKK. So, you said in response to his question, you’re sorry because the words caused offense. So, would you not be sorry if no one was offended by your words?

VITIELLO: No, it was wrong to do.

HARRIS: Why was it wrong?

VITIELLO: Because those are offensive words.

HARRIS: Why are they offensive?

VITIELLO: Because they have history in this country and, and -- I, I honestly didn’t mean it that way.

HARRIS: But please talk about the history. What is the history that would then make those words wrong?

VITIELLO: Well, the Klan was what we would call today a domestic terrorist group.

HARRIS: Why? Why would we call them “domestic terrorist group” [sic]?

VITIELLO: ‘Cause they tried to use fear and force to change political environment [sic].

HARRIS: And what was the motivation for the use of fear and force?

VITIELLO: It was based on race and ethnicity.

HARRIS: Right. Are you aware of the perception of many about how the power and the discretion at ICE is being used to enforce the laws? And do you see any parallels?

VITIELLO: I do not see any parallels between sworn officers and agents-

HARRIS: [interrupting] I’m talking about perception. I’m talking about perception.

VITIELLO: I do not see a parallel between what is constitutionally mandated as it relates to enforcing the law-

HARRIS: [talking over Vitiello] Are you aware that there’s a perception -- are you aware that there’s a perception-

VITIELLO: I see no perception that puts ICE in the same category as the KKK. Is that what you’re asking me?

HARRIS: No, I’m very specific about what I’m asking you. Are you aware of a perception that the way that the discretion-

VITIELLO: [interrupting] I see no parallel.

HARRIS: I’m not finished.

VITIELLO: I see none.

HARRIS: I’m not finished. I’m not finished. Are you aware that there’s a perception that ICE is administering its power in a way that is causing fear and intimidation, particularly among immigrants and specifically among immigrants coming from Mexico and Central America? Are you aware of that perception?

VITIELLO: I do not see a parallel between the power and the authority that ICE has to do its job and the agents and officers who do it professionally and excellently with lots of compassion-

HARRIS: [interrupting] Sir, how can you be the head of an agency and be unaware of how your agency is perceived by certain communities?

VITIELLO: There’s a lot of perceptions in the media and in the public that are incorrect about the agency and what it does-

HARRIS: [interrupting] But the perception exists, would you agree, whether or not it’s correct? And wouldn’t you agree then that if that perception exists, there might need to be some work done to correct the perception?

VITIELLO: I do want to advocate for the workforce that the vital public safety mission that they have to protect the homeland [sic], and I think more people need to know how valuable they are to the society, so I agree with you on that.​

 

The ICE officers I have personally known have been pampered scumbags. They often had unmonitored “overtime” as well.

I don’t see where Harris compared ICE to the KKK. What she did say is that immigrant communities are sometimes scared of ICE and that is unquestionably true.

So far I have seen Republicans claim Harris cannot be President (false), that she wasn’t born in America (she was), that she is a w**** (she isn’t), that she both hates law enforcement but also was a law enforcement officer that lived put people in prison and that she is the most radical VP candidate ever but also is big on law and order.

 

so according to her and the extreme left, enforcing immigration laws = kkk?

 

Wait.
Holy up....


You think this country didn't enforce immigration before 2003?

 

exactly, so why all of a sudden labeling ICE as KKK? Are they enforcing immigration laws any differently now?