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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Wattafan, Aug 15, 2020.

  1. Wattafan

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    Already explained why it is counterintuitive - now disprove it.
    Crime increase? What rock have you been living under.
    I see the value in support services but I for one would not want to be the poor b*stard going out to a potentially violent callout armed with nothing but words. ee
    A situation with firearms can possibly get more black men killed by police - oops, back to square one.
     
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  2. Wattafan

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    Sure, they elected them. They might unelect them time. Hopefully.
     
  3. Wattafan

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    I suppose Abbot is too then huh?o_O
     
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    More to the point-
    Why do Democrats hate them?
     
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    911 call center tapped for 17.7mill red.
    Victims services - 3.1 mill red.
    Read the list. It's a headscratcher.
     
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    On Thursday, council voted to move nine divisions within APD to either other city departments or to make them into standalone offices. Those divisions, which include Internal Affairs, Victim Services and the 911 Call Center, represent roughly $79.5 million in funding.

    So this is the part that isn't really a cut to what the city is spending on those services - just where in the city budget they are funding it.
     
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  8. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    "Defund the Police" and "global warming" are two of the worst phrases ever created.
     
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    I wonder if the person who stated the "defund the police" movement understands the amount of harm they did to their movement. Proggesives can be often really bad at slogans.
     
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    In the name of sanity, I hope you are correct.
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    My city of St. Petersburg, FL is calling it reimagining the police.
     
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    Also, why do Republicans like bigger government?
     
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    I get where you are coming from on this, but when actual police numbers and cadet training are being cut within a growing populace with an uncertain future, I think it is shortsighted.
    To put it mildly.
     
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    The biggest actual cuts appear to be:
    • Mounted Patrol - $2.1 million
    • Traffic Enforcement - $18.4 million
    • Park Police - $5.8 million
    • Lake Patrol - $1.4 million
     
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    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    With the diversion of budget money, don't you think it is possible that new cadets won't be as needed as those jobs will be taken up by other departments? For example, should a police officer be called for a truant student or a "normal" school yard fist fight ?
     
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    I generally side with police issues, but I'd like it if they were more effective. I saw a stat that APD spends more per person than any other city in Texas.
     
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    Why? What if police are doing unnecessary tasks right now?
     
  18. Wattafan

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    I think you are being overly dramatic.
     
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    What if they're not?
     
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    The entire movement is built on the principle of taking social services and other random tasks out of their hands. The people who are looking at defunding also look the police's tasks. You simply look at money with no regards to anything else. Which seems like a more reasonable and educated approach?
     

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