there are certain feminists who argue that women can be just as violent as men, and argue against the essentialist view that women are inherently more caring/nurturing/kind/civil than men. This is an an area of feminist scholarship reviewed and critiqued, for example, by Mary Stange in her book Woman the Hunter. worth reading.
This argument is everywhere. It's got to stop. You treat all men as one group (sexism). This is the same as treating all Blacks (or whoever) as one group (racism). "Men are more violent" is the same as "Blacks do more crime." So what? So every Black person deserves to be a victim of Black criminals? So every man deserves to be a victim of male violence? This is how the FoxNews crew reason: "Oh, another shooting in Chicago. So sad how those Blacks won't stop killing each other. . . . *sigh*" Or here on CF it would be: "A man was murdered last night. Killed by another man. . . . smh Men. . . ."
I am sexist sometimes. Usually not intentionally. I do try to be open minded though and it is clear to me that we live in a sexist world and women are expected to just shut up and smile. Of course a woman and women as a whole are capable of being every bit as violent as men, but in practice they are not. Some will argue the reason is social, others will argue other reasons. However the idea that women are inherently doves isn’t necessarily true. There are more radical feminists that argue against the nurturing woman archetype because it is limiting to women and also becomes a measure of what it means to be a woman. If someone understands it, it really isn’t that radical. Men write the rules, men enforce the rules and men have largely decided on what the roles and expectations of the genders are. As a result often times men are not aware of the degree of sexism (overt and otherwise) that exists and that limits women.
The question applied to sexism. If you want to talk about individual cases, we can do that but it won’t be very meaningful on the larger scale. I can point to individual cases where someone being black has not resulted in racism but it means little in the larger context. In the larger context being black has resulted in discrimination and lost opportunities. The same is true for women. Likewise that does not mean that a white person cannot be the victim of racism, it happens but less common and less of an issue at the institutional level. The reality is men do not really need to fear physical harm or rape from a woman to the degree that a woman does from a man Men have made and enforced the rules.
I've just skimmed this thread but wanted to respond to this as it bugs me. First off the US military then didn't allow women in combat roles. Probably at least 80% of the US military personnel in Vietnam were men and of those that saw combat probably more than 90% were men. And yes that was because of sexist reasons. One was that women weren't considered physically able to handle the rigors of combat. Two was that women weren't considered psychologically able to handle combat. Three was that US government always worried that dead women or women taken prisoner would greatly diminish moral of US forces and the US public. That didn't mean that the US public didn't care about the deaths of men. The Vietnam war was ended partly because it became so unpopular at home. Also your numbers only reflect US casualties. Possibly up to a million Vietnamese died in the war. Many of them women and many of them civilians.
Have you considered there is also weak misogyny and strong misogyny? I doubt many here consider women overall inferior to men and would never accept a women in a leadership position but I'm sure most of us have used sexist language at times and made snap judgement about someone based upon their gender. Also sexism has been in groups that are against biases of other sorts. I've heard complaints that there are problems of sexism within those that operate under BLM. One example of this was how Breanna Taylor's death got less attention than George Floyd or Ahmaud Arbery's. This forum is probably a poor place to conduct your research as while there is a diversity of races in this forum it skews overwhelmingly male. There are many here who are personally affected by racism so will consider that the worst while not that many personally affected by sexism..
I can't say which is "worse" or if it's even meaningful to compare them in that way. I think overt sexism tends to be more tolerated, for whatever reason. It is pretty rampant on this board, which is probably the norm for sports boards consisting mostly of male members.
I think this is an interesting question, but I think there's a couple of complicating factors. "Racism" as a term can very often be understood as a descriptive term--simply describing one's viewing of two different races as being, well, "different." This is a point often made about the term "anthropocentrism": we are descriptively or weakly anthropocentric (and inescapably so) because we are human. We are strongly or evaluatively/normatively "anthropocentric," on the other hand, if by anthropocentric we mean something more like "God gives us dominion over nature to do anything we damn well please." In this latter sense, anthropocentrism is normatively equivalent to arrogance, which is a bad thing. In contrast, "misogyny" as a concept starts out as an evaluative term. It is difficult to see how anyone could be descriptively misogynistic just by virtue of who they are. Misogyny in this sense (I'm sort of thinking out loud here) is already a Bad Thing. You can be weakly misogynistic I suppose, in that the level of your misogyny might be low, unnoticeable, or not a problem; and on the other end of the misogyny spectrum, you're a full-blown member of the he-man woman hater's club.
The Supreme Court treats racial discrimination with strict scrutiny, the highest burden (compelling government interest narrowly tailored to fit that purpose). Gender discrimination, however, is analyzed with intermediate scrutiny (important government interest, law must be substantially related). Pretty much, there is never an instance where someone’s skin tone is a basis to treat them differently. However, men and women do have biological differences so there are legit reasons to discriminate based on sex when it comes to maternity leave, military, etc. I voted that racism is worse but it doesn’t mean sexism hasn’t produced horrific results. It all depends on which region of the world you grew up in. Historically in the US I’d say white women have fared better than black men
There are 3.6 billion women so sexism is a pretty biggly problem Now tell us everyone you are racist against so we can add it up and compare
For years they've been talking about animal comparisons in sports. Black players tend to get compared to animals more. The blogger is interested in Mr. Cheeto or whoever. I guess Jar Jar Binks of Star Wars was too easy. Ever think about the first Star Wars movie, how there was only one black guy in it? Darth Vader.
"Latinos can be racist, too. My community shows how": https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/28/latinos-can-be-racist-too-my-community-shows-how/ Latinos can be racist, too. My community shows how. Opinion by Lizette Alvarez July 28, 2020 at 6:06 p.m. EDT Lizette Alvarez is a journalist living in Miami. As the daughter of Cuban refugees, I was raised to resist oppression and champion liberty. But when the Black Lives Matter movement roared into South Florida, asking us to end systemic racism and police brutality, I was caught off guard. I hadn’t fully realized the subtle ways that racism thrives in Miami, my hometown, a place dominated by a white Latino supermajority. We are a community built by people who have fled despotism in our home countries, yet we have ignored injustice in black neighborhoods a few miles away. And I — educated, liberal, supposedly enlightened — have been as guilty as anyone. It shouldn’t be this way. Latinos have forever had a tangled history with race: After all, we come in all shades of melanin. We are considered “minorities” throughout most of the United States. Many of us come from countries enriched by the enslavement of Africans. We should understand the Black Lives Matter movement in a profound way. Yet here in Miami, action and empathy are color-coded. And despite the work of a young, committed generation of Latinos, I fear that this historic moment of national reckoning will ultimately pass us by. The Latino experience in Miami-Dade is unusual for the United States. We make up a majority of the area’s population — 71 percent. But within that group, nearly 90 percent of us identify as white, while only about 3 percent identify as black. And far too many Latinos in Miami-Dade simply choose to preserve their white privilege, shrugging off discrimination around them. There is indifference, or outright hostility, to the Black Lives Matter movement online, in conversations and on the streets among many Latinos. I’ve attended a few large, overwhelmingly peaceful demonstrations in Miami and was initially pleased to see so many multi-ethnic Latinos. But, later, when I remembered that we make up nearly three-quarters of the county, the numbers seemed underwhelming. Daniella Capote, a 27-year-old law student who was born and raised in Miami, told me at a protest that she was infuriated by the lackluster support. Latinos, she said, “forget where they came from, Cuban Americans, in particular. … They need to do more than recognize racism; they have to act against it.” Then there are the Latinos who are outright opposed to the efforts of Black Lives Matter. Miami is one of the few places where you’ll regularly see “Cubans for Trump” counterprotests. Many of the Latinos demonstrating at these rallies — whether Cuban, Venezuelan or Colombian — describe their motivation as support for law and order. Some may genuinely have benign purposes, but Roberto Santiago, a black Puerto Rican public relations specialist who has spent years in Miami, sees something else at work. “Our people have this denial of racism,” he said, lamenting that many Latinos think their own “minority” status makes them immune to bigotry. “It’s like, ‘We are not racist — we are Hispanic, so why are you offended by this?’ ” But from my own experiences, I know that Miami Latinos are not immune. Growing up here, I had no black friends; just a handful of black students attended my private school. A ride through black neighborhoods meant locked car doors and eyes peeled for trouble at red lights. Even in my loving, nontraditional family, the idea of a black boyfriend was inconceivable: “Ni se te ocurra — don’t even think about it.” I never thought much about it, and never really saw myself as racist. Then, a decade ago, I moved home and started to dwell on my own complicity each time relatives, friends, acquaintances and strangers casually slid into the same language I’d heard as a kid: “Ese trabajo es de negro,” equating scutwork to black work. “Eso es una negrada” — when something is done chaotically or poorly. “Está mejorando la raza” — improving the race by marrying white, which is heard sometimes among darker-skinned Latinos. Year after year, the words swirled around me, but I remained stone-faced and silent, complicit in my cowardice. Then, not long ago, my 21-year-old daughter, Isabel, challenged me. “It’s not right,” she said. “Why don’t you say something?” Why? Because Miami-Dade’s rare bubble of Latino empowerment, which includes Latino billionaires, a U.S. senator, artists, business titans, judges and celebrities, has desensitized us. As a white Latina here, I never considered myself a minority. I spoke Spanish and English freely. I was proud of my Cuban-ness and our role in shaping modern-day Miami. If some non-Hispanics bristled, they could leave. Many did, sprinting to English-speaking counties north of here, and that was fine with us. We are the establishment now. Our hard-earned power and influence, though, have emotionally severed us from our origin story. We Cubans escaped Fidel Castro and embraced the freedoms he had shredded: the right to speak and read freely, own property and businesses, hold legitimate elections and — especially — protest the government. That trauma lingers still over cafecitos, ocean swims and Noche Buena celebrations — because, when you think about it, 1959 wasn’t so long ago. It’s certainly recent enough for Miami’s white Latinos to remember the oppression our own families overcame, and to honor them by standing up for our black neighbors today.
I think the best way to explore and draw attention to one problem (like sexism) is by trying to lessen the legitimacy of the outcry over other legitimate problems (like racism).
