Trump Sends Unmarked Fed Goons to Kidnap Protesters

In strange bedfellows news Ammon Bundy is sympathetic to the BLM protesters in Portland and had been planning on attending a BLM protest.

Also the latest protest shows a very stark difference in how the Bundy, his family and their supporters were treated when they took over and damaged Federal property versus what is happening now in Portland.
https://www.courthousenews.com/two-standoffs-in-oregon-two-different-federal-reponses/

Two Standoffs in Oregon: Two Different Federal Responses
July 23, 2020

BOISE, Idaho (AP) — When armed protesters took over a remote wildlife refuge in eastern Oregon four years ago to oppose federal control of public lands, federal agents negotiated with the right-wing occupiers for weeks while some state leaders begged for stronger action.

This month, federal officers sent to Portland to quell protests against racial injustice took swift and far harsher action: launching tear gas, firing less-than-lethal ammunition and arresting more than 40 people in two weeks. State leaders are imploring federal forces to leave the progressive city, saying they’re escalating a volatile situation.

The reaction from state leaders, protesters and right-wing anti-government groups to the U.S. response to two disparate situations shows the inconsistencies in how both sides view federal intervention, often based on the politics of who’s protesting and who’s cracking down.

J.J. MacNab, a fellow at George Washington University’s Program on Extremism, said many right-wing extremists who espouse anti-government and pro-gun views have embraced the authoritarian tactics used by President Trump that they denounced under his Democratic predecessor.

“It’s like night and day,” she said. “They hated government when Obama was in office. They love government now.”

MacNab, who’s been monitoring social media chatter by supporters of anti-government groups such as the Oath Keepers and the militia-style Three Percenters, said she’s seen a steady stream of violent rhetoric directed toward Portland protesters.

MacNab said the Oath Keepers in 2015 promoted a conspiracy theory that a U.S. military training exercise was a pretext for the federal government to impose martial law.

“They are literally 180 degrees from where they were in 2015,” she said.

But some of them do not fully support the federal tactics targeting two months of protests in Portland that began after George Floyd’s killing by Minneapolis police. Large, mostly peaceful crowds had dwindled to smaller groups that have vandalized the federal courthouse and other public buildings downtown, which federal authorities say gives them authority to protect their officers and property.

Eric Parker, president of The Real 3%ers of Idaho, supported an armed standoff with federal authorities in 2014 near the Nevada ranch of Cliven Bundy, whose sons led the occupation at the wildlife refuge in Oregon two years later. Both standoffs pushed for states’ rights and keeping the federal government out of people’s lives.

Parker was charged with pointing a semiautomatic rifle at armed federal agents and pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor. He spent about 18 months in federal custody.

“I had to go through due process with my activism, if you’re willing to call it that,” he said this week. “And if you’re going to do activism, you have to be willing to do that.”

Parker, who’s running for Idaho state Senate, has some concerns about the federal response to protests in Portland and elsewhere.

“It makes me uncomfortable, sure,” he said. He worries that videos that show federal agents grabbing people off the street and whisking them away in unmarked cars could mean people are being arrested without probable cause.

Still, he doesn’t necessarily oppose U.S. agencies taking action.

“If Portland isn’t going to protect its police department or the federal building or what have you, I could see them having to,” Parker said.

Parker, who was in eastern Oregon during the 2016 occupation but said he did not take part, criticized the difference in the Democratic governor’s reactions to the federal response then and now.

Gov. Kate Brown has compared the presence of federal agents at the Portland protests to pouring gasoline on a fire.

“This a democracy, not a dictatorship. We cannot have secret police abducting people in unmarked vehicles. I can’t believe I have to say that to the President of the United States,” she tweeted.

But “in 2016 she was begging federal law enforcement to do whatever they had to do to stop the peaceful occupation in the middle of a desert,” Parker said. “The idea that now federal agents are storm-troopers of death I find quite hypocritical.”

The armed occupation at the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge started Jan. 2, 2016, and lasted 41 days. Negotiations began in the first weeks, with Ammon Bundy questioning whether the federal government had the authority to operate in the county.

Bundy and others were allowed to come and go as the Obama administration tried to avoid the bloodshed that’s characterized confrontations with right-wing groups in the past.

By the end of January, state police and FBI agents used a roadblock to stop Bundy and other protest leaders as they headed to a meeting. During the confrontation, occupier Robert “LaVoy” Finicum was shot and killed by police and several others were arrested. Finicum’s death sparked protests in more than a dozen cities nationwide.

The FBI gave the remaining occupiers time to leave the refuge. Most did — though some were arrested — and soon just four holdouts remained. They surrendered as federal agents moved in Feb. 10.

U.S. Senators Ron Wyden and Jeff Merkley, both Oregon Democrats, had urged the FBI to move quickly to end the occupation. Now, they strongly criticize federal actions in Portland. Wyden described them as “paramilitary assaults” on people’s constitutional rights, while Merkley called them “profound offenses against Americans.”

In Portland, the federal response escalated faster. Federal officers, including the Border Patrol, were deployed in early July, and have repeatedly deployed tear gas and rubber bullets and used force to scatter protesters.

A protester was hospitalized with critical injuries on July 11 after a federal officer struck him in the head with a round of less-than-lethal ammunition. A video last weekend showed a federal agent hitting a Navy veteran repeatedly with a baton while another pepper-sprayed him in the face. Federal officials said they’re investigating.

Former Seattle Police Chief Norm Stamper, author of the 2016 book “To Protect and Serve: How to Fix America’s Police,” said Trump appears to be using “his own private political army” in a quest to “override home rule and local authority.”

“If it’s not unprecedented, it’s extremely rare and as dangerous as I think it is uncommon,” Stamper said.

Stamper said National Guard troops, unlike federal agents deployed by the Trump administration, are trained to respond to civil unrest and operate at the direction of state and local officials.

“For me, the larger question is: Who is in charge of these federal forces?” he said.

Bundy, who lives in Emmett, Idaho, is asking a similar question. He said this week that he planned to attend a local Black Lives Matter rally calling for reduced police funding.

“We have to understand that there is an enormous amount of Black people, you know, that need their rights defended,” he said in an online video. “I do believe, in many ways, the police need to be defunded. We have become a police state because of the funding that they receive.”

Some followers sharply criticized him, which Bundy said disgusted him. He later decided not to go to the protest, saying he feared his presence would increase the risk of violence.

“There needs to be a defunding of government in general, and especially the police forces, because they’re the ones that are actually going to seek and destroy us,” he said in a video. “And there are many people in the Black Lives Matter organization, along with patriots and, you know, libertarians and Republicans and Democrats that understand this.”

By REBECCA BOONE and MICHAEL KUNZELMAN

 

Oh, i see. The terrorism that's been taking place in Portland since the end of May had nothing to do with the Feds being deployed.

For the record, the Courthouse has been under attack since May 31st. Feds weren't deployed until July 1st - one month later.

https://pamplinmedia.com/pt/9-news/...e-of-the-portland-protests-and-police-clashes

Yup, glad he knows what's really going on.

 

Protests had largely quieted down by late June and things were fizzling out until feds were deployed. Things started heating up after feds hit a protestor with bullets on July 11th I believe, and escalated from there. You are rewriting history a bit hear to paint a different narrative than what actually happened.

 

With all due respect, I can’t educate you when you are living in a bubble of trump‘s lies that is enabled by the Republican Party. Believe the lies if you wish. At the moment, we are still a free country, so go right ahead. Who knows. Perhaps you will wake up and see the truth someday. That’s not my problem. It is your own.

 

Americans of all stripes don't like seeing their neighbors get pushed around by DC forces.
To be fair, though, the feds went real hard on LaVoy Finicum. That was pretty much murder. You can watch from inside his truck if you want to.

 

So to summarize:

Protestors armed with spray cans: tear gas and rubber bullets
Armed militia takes over federal building: peaceful negotiation

 

https://m.soundcloud.com/war_college/on-the-frontlines-of-the-1

 

Barr's written testimony from this morning:

 

Barr Bullsh!t:

Let's all understand how this anti-Black logic is stupid (subcategory: racist), step by step.

Barr says:
"The leading cause of death for young black males is homicide."
OK....
"Every year approximately 7,500 Americans are victims of homicide,"
OK...
"and the vast majority of them--around 90%--are killed by other blacks."
IRRELEVANT, IDIOT. YOU DON'T BLAME THE VICTIM FOR THE RACE OF HIS/HER MURDERER.

You see, if one Black person murders another Black person, they're not the same person. Black people are individuals, not one big black blob pointing guns at itself. The black blob is not shooting itself, Dude. Black people who get murdered are individuals with different identities from the people who murder them, Mr. Racist-Ass.

Try this parallel example:
"Every year, more than 15,000 Americans are murdered.
"Over 90% of them by other Americans.
"Alas.
"Yes, Americans are naturally murderers, and they deserve it, for killing each other.
"I wish they would stop, but those damn Americans have it in their bloodthirsty DNA.
"So, it's their own damn fault for getting murdered. And fukc it."

 

So is this to become the thread covering the House Judicial Committee’s hearing about William Barr’s highly controversial tenure as Attorney General? Barr is guilty, in my opinion, of far more egregious actions while trump’s A.G. than “just” carrying out jackboot assaults, in concert with Acting Homeland Security Director Chad Wolf, on largely peaceful protestors in an obvious effort, in my opinion, to provoke violence in the hope that this will help his deeply troubled reelection prospects.

Be that as it may, I have an early opinion of the beginning of the hearing. After over 60 years, the Republican Party has reached back to the Joe McCarthy era for it’s playbook on how to “defend” Barr. After a detailed opening statement by committee chairman Nadler, he gave the floor to Ranking Member Jim Jordan. Chairman Nadler had barely closed his mouth which Jordan yelled, and I am not overstating the volume, “Spies!“ (to paraphrase Jordan’s next words) “That’s why they are after you, Mr Barr!”

Straight out of Senator Joe McCarthy’s mouth to God’s ears. A perfect example of today’s Republican Party.

 

Sounds a lot like what terrorists would say. But that's cool, you can continue believing the BS being portrayed by the likes of CNN-funded by the leftists.

 

Im scared.

The republican party whole shtick is taken straight from "what nazis would say" its remarkable.

The whole republican party has been hijacked by trump ( you must be so proud)

1st amendment is getting sh*it on while 2nd amendment sits at home still outraged about gun control ..white rights ..and sandy hook. Such a beautiful group of people. Behold the master race lol..

Meanwhile Im scared of the antifa boogeyman!

 

Deeply concerned. . . . Did the guy who made the video get out of there alive?
I saw him dancing: was that when the blob was "makin' him dance" with gunfire?

 

This is so edited and editorialized from a biased source (daily caller) than you have to realize it's straight up propaganda.

 

Oh and MSM/CNN isnt. Cool. Sounds legit.

 

So your defense to posting propaganda is to say that hey, it's ok to post deceptive crap because CNN does it too in your opinion?

I guess the next time someone robs you they can justify it by saying, other people do it to which makes it ok.

 

Wow - the level of stupidity is strong in this one!

DD

 

So you are essentially calling me a terrorist. I think a hell of a lot of people here, on both sides of the “aisle,” would strongly disagree with you. Having said that, I can only have one reply.

**** you.

 

Oh noes, a Trumpanzee video that promises to show me the REAL truth. That's original.

 

I do sincerely apologize if it came off in a way where I was calling you a terrorist. Definitely not my intention.

I was referring the people being interviewed on the video that i posted. What they’re saying is something you would hear from terrorists.

If you disagree or anyone else disagrees, cool. You guys think it’s ok to destroy properties and destroy businesses, cool. You guys think it’s ok for them (BLM leader, Hawk Newsome) to say crap like “If this country doesn’t give us what we want, we will burn down this system.” Go for it. Silent majority are sick of people playing victim.