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Trump's coronavirus response

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Two Sandwiches, Mar 13, 2020.

  1. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    No...i am saying to read the reports that describe Ford's methodology and you will see why their tests aren't conclusive.
     
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  2. Nook

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    This. If anything I am surprised it took this long. What Trump is going to do is tone down the "crazy" and then hope that the extreme left eats the moderate left.... and it very well might work. This election is a long way from decided. There is a week left in July..... there are promising results coming out from some of the vaccine testing and there will be a sense of adulation getting closer to the holidays if there is hope in the air.

    This election isn't close to being decided.
     
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    Straw man - Wikipedia
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    A straw man (or strawman) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy of having the impression of refuting an argument, meanwhile the proper idea of argument under discussion was not addressed or properly refuted. One who engages in this fallacy is said to be "attacking a straw man".
     
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  4. Wattafan

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    I can see they are not conclusive, but should not their methods warrant further investigation?
     
  5. Wattafan

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    Accusing someone of a strawman and proving it are two different things.
    I.e., show how I built a strawman out of your argument and then attacked it.
    Nice red herring btw. (Look that one up.)
     
  6. NewRoxFan

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    A pointless exercise, I know, everyone else here knows, and even you know its a strawman. In fact, almost all of your arguments tend to be strawman in nature. For example... where did I accuse the ford study of "cherry picking?" Where did anyone say clinical testing should be stopped?
     
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  7. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    If you read and paid attention to my post a few posts ago, you would see that I said it would be fine if they want to continue their study. But, there is currently much more conclusive evidence that it is not an effective treatment than it is. That being the case, it should currently not be used as a treatment, but there is little harm in continuing the Ford study.
     
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  8. Wattafan

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    Lol.
    Where did I say anyone said clinical testing should be stopped?
    I still see no evidence of my alleged strawmanning.
    I think you're full of it.
     
  9. NewRoxFan

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    Admittedly, you don't know clinical testing is or how it differs from the Ford study, but...
     
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  10. Wattafan

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    Still does not address the issue that HF is falsifying data, or it is not being considered on it's own merits.
     
  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Where have I said they are falsifying their data? I'll wait...
     
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  12. Wattafan

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    So you don't think HFs own methods deserve proper investigation?
    Iow, did these clinical tests specifically focus on HFs methodology?
     
  13. Wattafan

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    Didn't say you said that.
    Didn't have to wait long did ya...
     
  14. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    So why do you bring that up in response to my posts?
     
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    To bring to your attention why has it not been brought up?
    Falsifying information like this should be called out loudly and strongly and even subject to prosecution yet it has not.
    Why?
     
  16. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    Who said they are falsifying their information? The articles I have read question the methodology.
     
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    I've given up. Lets pretend he is correct and has won the argument. Maybe he will go away then. :D
     
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  18. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    It's like a guy is running 100 meters. Hand timed he runs a 9.5. Electronically he was timed at 9.7. No one is saying the hand held timer is lying, just that the electronic methodology is the better method.
     
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    Is this how bad it's gotten
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  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    I've seen this one

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