Trump Sends Unmarked Fed Goons to Kidnap Protesters

Whichever way you cut it, when so called peaceful protests suddenly turn violent there must be a way to deal with it in as quickly and humanely appropriate way.
Prevention of escalation would seem to be a desirable tactic - weeding out trouble makers is part of the process.
This non trust of our own LEOs has gotten ridiculously out of hand.
Like you say, we are not in China or Russia and so far non of the detainees have been brutalised else we would all be well aware of it.
Would you prefer these riots to progressively worsen until people start losing their lives?

 

If you think holding (and damaging) whole city precincts hostage and sending the regular populace hiding in their homes is American then you have a strange idea of just what is American.

 

You, I and other conservative posters in this thread always knew this is just the latest lie amongst others. We’re playing along with these loonies just to see how sick and twisted they really are.

 

The best way to reestablish trust toward law enforcement isn't authoritarian citizen apprehensions that don't follow the rule of law.

That has the opposite effect.

Much of the proposals by BLM, many of the defund groups ideas and things of that nature would be a great start to rebuilding the trust.

 

I didn't say anything about that being american or not but you do you.

 

I get this bro
You have to explain to the rest who Harden is

 

OJ Simpson's secret Kardashian daughter's ex boyfriend. Her brother in law ran for prezi.

 

This is too complex for the left and right here
Since we represent ABOVE

 

https://www.lawfareblog.com/what-heck-are-federal-law-enforcement-officers-doing-portland

Question 1: Which agencies’ officers are being utilized for federal law enforcement purposes in Portland, and under which statutory authorities?

Question 2: Okay, but which federal laws are being enforced?

Question 3: What authority do these federal officers have to detain and arrest individuals?

Question 4: How come none of these federal officers have to identify themselves?

Question 5: Is the Department of Homeland Security in charge? If so, why?

Question 6: How will we learn the answers to any of these questions?

 

The Admin stance and arguments:

The state is not doing enough. So the fed gov must step in, but is doing so in a way that sure looks unconstitutional. This is over graffiti according to the DoJ. 0 Dead.

Contrast this with... many states are not doing enough to contain coronavirus. The fed gov absolutely have the power to step in and coordinate a fed response. 140k Dead and counting. But no, the fed gov will not step up.

Priority is wacked, don't you think?

 

And that right there is where people on different sides of the political fence see things differently - law enforcement has to abide by the rules while (in this case) the protesters do not. And they then have the temerity to get outraged when LEOs don't follow exact protocol.
On top of that, the media seems to focus in on that as well.
It's like Bizzaro World.

 

How come the same people who are talking about FREEDOM and their "face autonomy" being abused by masks laws, how lucky they are not to live in a police state, are the same who find it normal to have a Gestapo-lite kidnapping citizens?

What happens if Trump gets reelected? One way street to dictatorship.

 

Repugs enabling this behavior! Wow

 

The 'not follow exact protocol' you mention is the United States Constitution.

Law enforcement has gotten away with 'mistakes', breaking the law, and abusing power for decades if not more than a century.

If you think that allowing the same law enforcement agencies to increase their abuse of power will restore trust and bridge the gap, then yes, that is a side with which I differ.

The side that I am on is about lightening the load on Leo's, giving them better training, allowing them to de-escalate in order to make both them and civilians safer, while also holding officers accountable who break the law and don't follow the established guidelines.

You are correct that I believe that will bridge the gap in trust with the community more than instituting a communist China authoritarian enforcement policy over them.

Another question. Why are you willing to set aside law enforcement guidelines, procedures, and possibly the United States Constitution for these authoritarian squads, but won't set aside guidelines and laws for those striking out against a long history of being treated unfairly?

 

more footage of peaceful protesters

 

According to Oregon DOJ spokeswoman Kristina Edmunson, the suit accuses the agencies of engaging "in unlawful law enforcement in violation of the civil rights of Oregon citizens by seizing and detaining them without probable cause."

 

It shows that the only rights that count is their own rights. Everyone else ... nay, violating everyone else rights is a-ok.

 

So these rioters are all innocent? They were warned by police. Where does it say in the constitution that you aren't allowed to use unmarked cars? Or that law enforcement must wear appropriate insignia?
This is basically war in the streets.
You get injured in wartime activities, you don't get to cry foul.
These fools want to play rough, then suck it up - don't go crying to Mommy when you get a black eye.

 

Are you advocating that it is OK for LE to not follow the rules?

 

I saw OJ played against the Dolphins long ago. The amounts of margarine that was surrounding him was crazy. I’ve no doubts, he had laid the big stiff arm to Kris Jenner once or twice.