"YouGov Polling: Biden Skeptics Are Moderate Democrats": https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...n_skeptics_are_moderate_democrats_143640.html excerpt: At the moment, Biden appears to have the support of over 90% of “liberal” and “very liberal” Democrats — moreover, virtually none of the defecting 10% say they would actually vote for Trump. By contrast, Biden is only at 81% among moderate and conservative Democrats, with 12% saying at this point they would vote for Trump. Surprisingly — given Biden’s moderate reputation during the primaries — the danger to him in November appears to come from center-right Democrats, rather than liberals. Biden’s recent struggles among party moderates may be related to recent moves he has made to attract the Sanders-Warren wing of his party. He has proposed higher corporate and individual top-earner tax rates, a $15-per-hour minimum wage, lowering Medicare eligibility to age 60, free college tuition for low-income students, ending the supply of military weapons to police departments, and an economic stimulus that’s “a hell of a lot bigger” than the $2 trillion CARES Act. While Biden has not endorsed “Medicare for all” or the Green New Deal — two policies that sharply divide the “very liberal” and “moderate” voters within the Democratic Party — he has clearly moved to the economic left, which could entail some lost votes among more fiscally conservative Democrats. *** It is worth pointing out, however, that the ideological distribution of voters in the battleground states of Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Florida are more moderate and conservative than those in solid Democratic states like California, Massachusetts, New York and Vermont, and, further, that the former group of voters will end up selecting the next president. more at the link
Seems very contrarian and I'm not sure if i can align the methodologies of a Hoover shill with my own thinking. I do align with Warren's proposals so I'm not claiming to know what moderates in those states think. More data will be needed but "massive overspending" to fight covid will appeal to battleground and all other states when unemployment and homelessness is widespread and tangible to everyone. In fact I'm willing to bet Trump will roll out his own grandiose spending plan to highlight his economic brilliance of pumping and dumping.
I don't think that the democrats right now need to say much of anything, as Trump is sinking his own ship. That won't last forever, at some point "Weekend at Joe's" will need to happen but not now.... better to start a little too late than too early in this case. As long as more scandals emerge and Trump decides to do things like attack Bubba Wallace and complain about monuments....... the Democrats need to only make limited comments. As for the economy. Assuming the COVID situation gets even somewhat better, the economy in the short term will begin to roar again....... and a certain amount of optimism will return and help Trump...... but the democrats really have nothing to do with that and I don't believe people are expecting answers from the democrats at this point or the short term. Even then Biden and the democrats can give general answers.
Why is this surprising? The more moderate you are, the more of a swing voter you are. It's no different than the idea that liberal Republicans are more likely to vote for a Democratic candidate than a conservative Republican would be. Of course center-right Democrats are going to be less loyal to Democrats than liberal Democrats. The need to "shore up the base" against a candidate people absolutely loathe has always been nonsense. The left will come out to vote against Trump, whoever the Dem nominee is.
Although there is also the group at the ends that say there’s no real difference between the candidates. I think more of those sat out in 2016.
Agreed - but I don't think those people are really liberal. They are somewhere on the anti-establishment spectrum, but I don't think they fit the traditional left vs right dynamic. And those that do won't be staying home in 2020. I don't think anyone on the left will be looking at Trump and anyone and saying there's no real difference anymore.
Note the originating tweet. There's a strategy at play here. She's never attended GOP conventions when she's running for reelection. That's because, in Maine, her only path to victory is persuading her constituents that she still belongs to that long-extinct animal called an independent or moderate or even levelheaded Republican. If there were any of those left before Trump, they have all resigned or been voted out for opposing the least little thing about him. So that won't work for Collins anymore. This cycle, more than any other, she's in danger of losing her seat for siding too often with Trump. The surprising thing would have been if she WERE attending the convention. In fact, each GOP Senator that's announced they weren't attending the convention has nothing to lose by not attending and a lot to lose if they do attend, whether it's to do with their health or their reelection.
Newsflash, Kellyanne: Everything you just said applies even more so to your disgrace of a boss, Donald Trump.
What 9 GOP Campaign Consultants Really Think About Republicans’ Chances in November https://www.rollingstone.com/politi...s-2020-house-senate-candidates-biden-1024862/ “There are practical realities — we ran a bunch of red district primaries, and it would come back that the number one issue for 80+% of Republican primary voters was loyalty to Donald Trump. I’m not making that number up,” a respondent told me.
Biden's dog has a chance in November. As Nook said, Trump is sinking his own boat. Let him keep blasting holes in his own hull. If I were Biden, I'd keep doing what he's doing and saving the ad money until the last month or so. Then I'd flood the airwaves with commercials about Trump using his own soundbites followed by a brief explanation on how I'm different.
They all have other options...go independent...switch over to the Democrat side...start working on starting up a new party. It isn't as if all of these GOPers struggling in the party of Trump don't have choices to move on. I know it's scary, but it can be done
This is a pretty good ad but the thing that caught my attention was how Lindsey Graham defended Bubba Wallace more than his best friend John McCain. Jim sites this as an example of how sycophantic Trump has been in but consider that Trump went after McCain two years ago. That Graham is now willing to stand up for Bubba Wallace might be a sign that even the most sycophantic Republicans are reassessing their support for Trump.
