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The culture of faking hate crimes

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Senator, Jun 24, 2020.

  1. J.R.

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    Yeah, send these pigs to jail!

    Why are they trying to ruin businesses & the lives of teens/people working at Starbucks, McDonalds, Subway, Shake Shack,...

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/22/how-nypd-faked-shake-shack-controversy-and-conspiracy-theory/



    Statement from Target: “We take this allegation seriously. We have reviewed video footage and have not found any suspicious behavior. We have shared the video with the Los Angeles County Sheriff’s Department and look forward to the conclusions of their investigation.”


    When will the lying cops stop lying? That's not how you get sympathy.

    (Really, what are Jussie Wallace/Bubba Smollett, these cops and others seeking? Attention? Sympathy? ... I mean I guess they're getting their 15 minutes of fame.)
     
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  2. tinman

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    The reasoning for all this manipulation is for changing public sentiment by using the media to manipulate it

    For example,
    if you keep saying that the Rockets won two championships because Michael Jordan never played in those years
    the public will eventually believe you because they are too lazy to research 1995 chicago bulls even though it's right there for them to see

    media manipulation works
     
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  3. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    My father is 83. I am not the man he is. He has done a lot to try to help black people through different organizations. He and some Mason friends of his even formed their own credit union.

    I say that to say I don't like criticizing him. That being said he will always think 95% of whites are racist. I went to private school and his constant talk of racism I now realize had an affect on me forming relationships with people from other races. That being said the black kids at my school segregated ourselves.

    I find your post interesting because you seem to have an issue with.me always saying blacks need to take more responsibility for our problems. Why do take issue with that if you have these thoughts?
     
  4. leroy

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    Just curious as to what Wallace actually did wrong here. He didn't see it. He wasn't the one to report it. He only found out about it when the president of NASCAR told him about it and got the FBI involved. It wasn't his garage...only assigned to it for the week. He's not the one that called it a noose first. His crew did. NASCAR did. The FBI did. Why is he being attacked as if it was premeditated? This is no where near the Smollet case. It was simply a mistake.
     
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    someone put a tarantula inside my orange mocha.
    They out to get me, yo.
    -Local Police-

    Arachnophobia was a well made movie
     
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    who is "celebrating" jesse smollet? doesnt everyone think he is a douche?
     
  9. IBTL

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    thanks for responding. I apologize if I have been harsh to you.
    My issue isnt your stance on responsibility.
    That is separate.

    My issue with you is that you exactly remind me of my coworker "black guy"
    And the entirety of my point. You cant be pgabriel but now its "that black guy pgabriel"
    I think that stinks ..
    You have interjected making it a black white thing to the point where I think you are trolling and want people to talk black white or make it that when its not. You have done that enough that I stopped with you. I think its weird and stinks that is why I have attacked you.

    Perhaps it is what you are saying about your grandfather says and knowing what he knows and has seen it is a natural defense mechanism. I would be same if I were him. I guess thats the point is I would be the same if I were you? Isnt that racist to see all "whites" as a label and racist?

    It is!!
    And with you I think it is a bad faith argument when making it black white all the time by yoy.. and you seem to get your rocks off on getting people to show their racism. I do find it slightly amusing what you are doing.

    So you are not a troll but an interesting fellow I give you that. I will day this..I dont see a guy like you ever giving a guy like me a job..or a break or help EVER.... and I know that going in. that sucks but thats the construct and I try not to think about it too much and move on. Trust me I have jad plenty of work block by black people to aid black people..nepotism you name it. All the races are sh*it on that one. If im being honest I do find the instances when it was a black person doing the screwing it was often times overt and crutched by management and under the guise of affirmative action or sexism. good stuff..

    I dont even think its racist either its just how it goes. You like people saying things like that so they can show how racist they really are. Or didnt even know!!

    My argument is its not ALWAYS race and sometimes it really is the person and chemistry. I think it stinks that your grandad felt that way but I understand and to an extent ( the whoosh part for me youll say) i "understand" where you a black person might think it was because black or white and be a thing.

    I guess there is no way to convey intent and ultimately someone isnt going to say "yeah Im not attracted to that person because they are black" when the notion of preference is a fair point. I like blondes redheads etc when is preference racist?
    When can something NOT be about race when that is all you see?

    So I guess my beef is that it isnt always race. And seeing things for race like my coworker always..is a empty and weird place..and racist!

    I hope that isnt how it is? I have faced things against my race and culture and I didn't like it but I tried not to look at each encounter through the lens of my race. My wife is not same race and religion. My father in law treated me terrilbly and it absolutely is because im not muslim ans his race. Doesnt make better I married his daughter I just wasnt looking at it through race. Doesnt hurt when she is fine as hell. But that doesnt make me less racist probably...she asked me one time and it only came up once and even though I have felt what I have felt about muslims i never asked her to wear a hijab while i hit it...just never occurred to me..thats on her dad or guys like you that obsess?

    Now where before would maybe want to be coworker friend ...and now I dont and you can make the argument now..partially its BECAUSE hes black...he started it brought it up! And it makes me racist to tell you that its because he wanted to make it about black white?

    I guess.
     
  10. pgabriel

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    To be clear it's my father. I dont argue with my father because he did spend his entire youth to young adulthood in Jim Crow. He is excessive while my 81 year old mother isn't like that at all.

    Lastly I agree with you. I've been working retail for four months and a few times black customers have gotten me alone to talk about how they have been treated differently in the store.

    My first go round on the site I was hypersensitive to race but I've evolved. I don't inject race anymore on non race topics. I agree with you a lot more than you think.
     
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    I don't want to say his name because invoking it will only bring this thread down even further. lol But seriously you are half way to figuring out the prose... one day its truth will be clear to you... Thus spoke Zarathustra.
     
  13. vlaurelio

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    LOL just say it coward

    who ever it is, is he a bigger liar than your grand wizard trump?
     
  14. Senator

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    What do any racists seek? What do any fake victims seek? What do child molestors seek? It doesn't matter why each individual acts incorrectly, what matters is we end it, particularly if it's a cultural habit like the constant race baiting of elderly white women. You realize no progress has been made right, just more views for media outlets who thrive on this stuff? Ask any black intellectual who the biggest enemy for AA's is and they'll say the far left and celebrities. They're not wrong, I'll explain why if you don't get it.
     
  15. Senator

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    Jussie Smollet imitators are defended by you, not me. They need to be locked up instead of walking the streets rehashing their hatred, whatever their sexual orientation, race or income level.
     
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    In 1960, before this expansion of the welfare state, 22 percent of black children were raised with only one parent. By 1985, 67 percent of black children were raised with either one parent or no parent.

    There is a lot of political mileage to be gotten by convincing blacks that they owe everything to the government and could not make it in this world otherwise. Dependency plus paranoia equals votes. But blacks made it in this world before the government paid them any attention.

    The liberal vision of blacks’ fate as being almost wholly in the hands of whites is a debilitating message for those blacks who take it seriously, however convenient it may be for those who are receptive to an alibi.

    When I was growing up, we were taught the stories of people whose inventions and scientific discoveries had expanded the lives of millions of other people. Today, students are being taught to admire those who complain, denounce and demand.

    If you want to see the poor remain poor, generation after generation, just keep the standards low in their schools and make excuses for their academic shortcomings and personal misbehavior. But please don't congratulate yourself on your compassion.


    T. Sowell

    What most people who contribute to society with actual jobs can tell you is (all races) - no... racism isn't 1/100th the problem the media is in America, and what the media promotes. Liberal leaders know this , it's no secret, but are too afraid to lose votes or be responsible for even higher crime rates when people are enraged at the idea of accountability --- https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/10/police-shootings-race-excessive-force/
     
  18. vlaurelio

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    quote where I defended Smollet or anyone else who has staged a crime
     
  19. TheRealist137

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    Not surprising that Clutchfans most obvious racist, Senator, cares more about fake hate crimes than he does about real hate crimes, even though the number of fake hate crimes is significantly smaller than real ones.
     
  20. IBTL

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    Thank you for your reply.

    I have been doing some introspection about this.

    I will continue to call out if it is not race. But I cannot always know if it is not.

    Also i cannot know if someone thinks I was discriminatory unless they tell me or I was explicitly trying to be.

    I guess what we are getting to here is there is explicit racism then I suppose accidental or unwitting racism. Then somewhere in there you have people saying it was black white when it wasnt at all which im arguing is race focused and racist itself. Then of course there is instances of no racism at all.

    So what is that? Like 4 facets?

    The 4 facets look like this?
    1) explicit...example- call someone spic ..n word
    2) unwitting racism not explicit on purpose example- liking confederate flag because of dukes of hazzard.
    3) race card racism. Example calling it race when it wasnt. This is what I accused you of but to be fair and I apologize to you for I havent walked in your shoes. My point solely is sometimes its not about black or white and I literally like white rice or black magic and am not thinking about black white or tryimg to be racist. I had a black dude give me crap about using the word white noise. He was like 'whys it gotta be about white' and he was laughing too but stilll.... I find this to be presumptuous of the black man but I cannot know what it means ..so all I can do is swear up and down i ate it because it was white rice or called it white noise since that's what it was.. You can take my word for it or not. I have to know too its not always white and black either but for black person it might be..this will take time and a long way from your dad to you to our children's children. Hopefully they can make strides in this area.
    4) its not racism and we can start to look less at skin tone and more honoring good people of all race and less honoring of crap people and the fake culture both crappy white and black celebrity promote. Make it less about race. Its promoting negative things im sure you seen guys lile bilzerian and that mindset. Those types of guys cause young punks white and black to try to be something they arent. I think young black guys do need better role models and are impressionable. But that is also society being about material goods fake and all that. All cultures and races have fakes that try to represent and are posers
     

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