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Muhammed Ali Jr- "BLM is racist"

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Senator, Jun 21, 2020.

  1. Senator

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    Uh oh, an intelligent answer. Wonder what the ignorant, divisive media and those who hide their racism behind being woke will call him now.

    https://nypost.com/2020/06/20/muhammad-alis-son-says-he-wouldve-hated-black-lives-matters/

    His father became a millionaire based on merit, but Muhammed Ali Jr can't coast by on his fortune - he receives a $1,000 month allowance from his estate and works real jobs to survive. He has to be honest with himself if he wants to survive, like the millions of other immigrants who come to America with nothing and never want to leave. He's too honest to run for politics, but Muhammed Ali Jr could do alot for marginalized communities and people with victim mentalities if they took his advice. Once the black community stops pointing fingers at the white man for the many internal issues they bring upon themselves, and look in the mirror, we're going to a lot more people thriving and a lot less violence.

    And they say it's the White man I should fear
    But it's my own kind doin' all the killin' here

    -Tupac Shakur
     
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  2. Senator

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    Angry internet - He doesn't agree with my narrow world view, thinks for himself , therefore, he is a racist and white nationalist.
     
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  3. jiggyfly

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    Trying to get some of that sweet Diamond and Silk money.

    But really.

    I don't know why his income was included in this but then I don't see why what Ali's son think this relevant anyway.

    Fun Fact.

    The Nation of Islam when Ali was a member was unabashedly racist.
     
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  4. Astrodome

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    Not as racist as farakhan
     
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    He is right. All lives do matter.
    . But the thing is some of you use the All Lives Matter routine to one up, excuse or make light of the tragedies so the all lives matter is not coming from a good place.
     
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  6. JayGoogle

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    Let's ask Jeffrey Jordan how he feels about it next.

    Instead of war on poverty they got a war on drugs
    So the police can bother me

    - Tupac Shakur
     
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  7. ROXRAN

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    When I say it it comes from a good place - I see people based on how they are not what they look like - I have a business and some of my clients that tip more and nicer to deal with is black - I absolutely value the quality nature of how people are irrespective of color
     
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    It's amazing that even he doesn't understand what BLM means. Anyone who says "all lives matter" doesn't get the point of saying "black lives matter"
     
  9. Reeko

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    he doesn’t even understand what “black lives matter” means...it is not saying that only black lives matter, it is saying black lives matter too because historically in this country, they haven’t

    Also, why tf should I care what he thinks? What makes his opinion so special? He’s Ali’s son, so that automatically means he can’t be ignorant? Racists like OP are so dumb. They’ll latch onto the words of 1 black person if they parrot his talking points. A typical Fox News tactic. Nobody race baits more than this loser OP.
     
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  10. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Token black guy quote. Senator's favorite.

    Such a victimizer mentality. Troubling.
     
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  11. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    White people continue to find the outlier black person who agrees with the white person's agenda while ignoring the thousands and thousands that disagree. And black's wonder why whites don't get it.
     
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  12. CometsWin

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    It's an important part of the racist's tool box. Like the token Fox News liberal, same thing.
     
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  13. MightyMog

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    All lives matter is not the same as Black lives matter.

    The phrase "Black lives Matter " is incorporated with many meanings from "racism, social tier, respect, equality" because historically it is a fact, Blacks are viewed as inferior by the colonization of the world. They were nothing but labor, you cannot change how history or society viewed them.

    So on the term All lives matter - while true, does not hold the same "Racism, social tier, respect, equality". If you think this phrase does justice for black lives matter, then you have very little knowledge of history of the blacks.

    Anybody who wants to watch something interesting. Watch the PPS on Asian Americans and watch the 1st 2 episodes. Even the Asians noticed the Blacks were on the lowest status tier in America, which means Asians wanted to make it in America, they had to choose a side so they can raise up in the social tier status. When you got other minority telling you, Blacks have it bad...it should make your brains think....why is that.

    On the subject of black on black crime....this happens to all Races..it is not unique to any race. Anybody who mentions this...is just stating the obvious. You got white on white, yellow on yellow, black on black. It's terrible

    For Tupac quote What he meant is if the blacks want to make a change unite and make a change, stop committing crime against your brother and sisters and focus on the main issues. But as i said, all races have the same issue, stop fighting among yourselves and unite to fight the real issues.

    On Ali Jr, he has the right to say what he believes, but it doesn't mean he speaks for all the minority (specifically blacks), just like 1 white person protesting for black lives matter doesn't mean all whites are correct on this.

    What i enjoy about this whole thing is, as i said it before. Internet keyboard warriors don't make a difference in real life.

    To make a change, people must act together and make a change and don't take "No as an answer" but do it peacefully and respectfully so the rest of the world watches and more people join the cause.
     
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    So explain it so the average white person understands ...

    Never owned a slave , don't even know anyone who did.
    Not racist.
    Never killed anyone black or otherwise.

    How did that person contribute to any of this , what do you want from that person ? why is that person part of the problem ?


    Lets be honest here - Slavery has been over for 5 generations.

    Every country in the western hemisphere had people brought to it in slavery .... Yet only in America is there still an issue about it.
     
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    People only care about slavery from the United States in the 1800s. Obama's Libya move created a modern day slave trade. He has done far worse to black people. Yet Trump is the demon for getting them more employment and taking care of America.
     
  17. MightyMog

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    Keep in mind while slavery was abolished in those 5 generations blacks and many other minority had to live with segregation

    Segregation lasted until 1965 (in some instances, it still went on for a few years for other systems to catch on)....only a mere 54 years......

    Now imagine being told, you can't drink/piss/eat at the same places. We still have many older blacks and younger kids who literally still been apart of that segregation life.

    Slavery today is still present around the world but USA is supposed to be the greatest free country in the world, not a 3rd world country that is still struggling to find it's own identify.

    Of course, the people who sold the slaves, should also be responsible but 1 problem at a time.
     
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  18. Senator

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    Africa should pay America reparations for slavery? How come illegals don't use this excuse and just work instead... what do you hope to achieve when illegals commit less violent crime and make more money in far more demanding industries... do I need to be to see the draw of America? Their community is far more honest about police - don't keep testing them and expect it to end like a picnic. Blue collar industries are far less racist than white collar , without all the virtue signalling, because all people care about is you being able to complete a job, and the results are obvious.

    I'll push for legislation that gives anyone employed and productive better rights, which is important when you look at the slave labor large grocery chains use .. missed checks construction workers in rural areas deal with .. but I'm not pushing legislation to reward some people for their skin color while continuing to punish everyone else who have to work with merit (Asians, Hispanics, Whites). What would actually help marginalized communities instead of using the past as an excuse is promoting the family unit, staying married, forgetting about guns and listening to cops. It won't make for a good hollywood movie but it gives them the best chance at success. You can't use events from centuries ago to blame your internal issues when anyone of any color can say that never leads to personal success, only more excuses.
     
  19. Senator

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    What .. are you talking about? All immigrants had to choose the side of merit... that was the "side" they chose to survive. Successful blacks and African immigrants chose that side too... it's what has made America such a power. There was tribalism to begin with but that has really died down now and no one disagree's it's socio economic based, money is and has been the culture here since the mid 20th century. Even the illegals in the blue collar community aren't using the white man as an excuse, they work hard and don't want to go home because they see it pays off more than any other country in the world.
     
  20. bobrek

    bobrek Politics belong in the D & D

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    My point is that whites find a black person that agrees with them and say stuff life "now this guy gets it". It is very prevalent (especially on social media sites). Whites ignore the multitudes of black voices that run contrary to them in order to find a handful that agree.

    The main suggestion I have is to listen, to comprehend and to understand their point of view.

    Simple question for you...

    In general, would you rather society treat you like you were:>

    White
    Black
    It doesn't matter because both are treated the same
     

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