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2020 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sweet Lou 4 2, Mar 26, 2020.

  1. J.R.

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    FAKE NEWS. WATCH OANN. BUY GOLD. EAT ELDERBERRY SUPPLEMENTS.
     
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    so basically all Trump has right now is the middle aged angry white guy vote according to this Fox poll
     
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  4. Newlin

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    Maybe not. I’m middle aged, angry, and white. But, I’m mainly just angry with Trump. So, there you go.
     
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    non answer
     
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    I will get in my golf cart and go bar hopping like I do often.
     
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    I look forward to your posts because the tweets u provide always come with heat...a mix of Trump’s corruption and fckery plus good news about his re-election
     
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    :D
     
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    OANN has him up 302%. Stop posting fake news
     
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    I still wonder why they didn't publish their own cooked poll that they promised Donny could use. It's not like they can get sued or accuracy or are treated with any sense of credibility.
     
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    Even the research director behind poopholes doesn't fully trust the BSPN rankings... That politico link embedded in op/ed is contradictory to the Vice article. Buyer beware indeed...
    Are ‘shy Trump supporters’ skewing polls again?
    Dear reader:

    Polls are catnip for political reporters, and I am no exception. This year, however, I’ve been paying less attention to the presidential “horse race" than I might otherwise, in part because of the problems with polling four years ago that pointed to a Hillary Clinton victory. It’s also such an unusual year, given the coronavirus, tough economy, and upheaval over police and race. Besides, November is still light years away, politically speaking.

    But several headlines this week caught my eye. “We’re thinking landslide,” began one in Politico. The “we” in that story, more than 50 Republican officials interviewed from around the country, were looking beyond the immediate gloomy picture for President Donald Trump, and seeing unreliable polls, a rebounding economy, and a fading pandemic.

    “We’re calling him ‘Teflon Trump,’” said a Republican official in North Carolina. “Nothing’s going to stick, because if anything, it’s getting more exciting than it was in 2016.”

    The Washington Examiner buttressed the Politico story with a recent comment by veteran GOP pollster Neil Newhouse.

    “I’m still convinced there is a shy Trump supporter, a hidden Trump vote,” Mr. Newhouse said, referring to voters unwilling to tell someone on the phone that they plan to vote for President Trump. “I’m convinced that number is at least 2 to 3 points.”

    “Shy Trump supporters” may have contributed to the flawed polling of 2016. National polls had shown Mrs. Clinton winning the popular vote by 3 percentage points; she won by 2 points. But election-eve polls in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan failed to see Trump victories in those states, and that was the ballgame. He won in the Electoral College.

    The Trump campaign has picked up on the “shy voter” theme, leading to another grabby Politico headline: “Trump has a point about the polls.”

    The point is that pollsters, most importantly in battleground states, are still grappling with some of the same issues they faced in 2016 - not just shy voters, but also possibly inadequate consideration of non-college-educated white voters.

    “Some of the fundamental, structural challenges that came to a head in 2016 are still in place in 2020,” Courtney Kennedy, director of research at the Pew Research Center and the lead author of a report on 2016 polling flaws, told Politico.

    This warning matters to both campaigns and voters. If pollsters don’t fix the problems, both must behave as if the polling might be off. In other words, when it comes to polls, caveat emptor - buyer beware.
     
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    Who told Karl Rove it was okay to leave the Witness Protection Program and put his ugly ass in front of tv again?
     
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    I dunno man.

    I believed the shy Trump voter in 2016 but now Trump Voters are anything but shy.

    I wonder, say in August or Early September, if the polls are still this bad will we start to see Trumpublicans fleeing the ship to save their own elections?

    If it starts to look clear that Trump is going to lose my guess is we're going to see the true test of their loyalty to him. It'll either be possibly go down with the ship and in turn assure Trump loses or stick on and hope the polls are wrong and they will get rewarded by daddy Trump if he wins.
     
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    I hope they all go down with him. Cruz, Paxton and Abbott are gonna ensure Texas becomes the Coronavirus hotspot by their spineless backing of Trump.
     
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    Ultimately, the most reliable poll are exit polls and event that has potential headaches (hanging chads).

    It's nice low effort media fluff to promote how public opinion for Trump is tanking but when the polling agencies are leaving out yokels who can't read or will openly lie because the answers sound insulting (in all it's irony, seems like they treat it like a racially biased IQ test.), it's really garbage in, garbage out at its best.

    At it's worst, it keeps these angry protestors at home when it matters the most...
     
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  18. Sweet Lou 4 2

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    They is no escape for them. They handcuffed their fate to Trump by enabling him and having a sham Impeachment Trial.

    Trump went too far. Republicans went too far with him. For the good of the country, Trump and Republicans mustn't just lose, they must lose so badly and in such a horrendous rout that they never ever think about supporting a Trump again and realize that they should have impeached him. Voters must teach them a lesson about putting Party over Country to help reform the Republican Party.

    No better way to do that than to give the hated liberals full control so they can completely rework the country in a way we have not seen since FDR - and thanks for Mitch, there will be no filibuster to stop them
     
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    Okay, that's polls. Are 'shy bettors' skewing the betting markets? Trump is down 9.2 there.
     
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  20. Batman Jones

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    Exit polls aren't so reliable. They had Kerry well up over Bush. The most reliable 'polls' are the betting markets.
     
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