If You Take An Officer's Taser In Fight With The Officer That You Started, You Deserve Getting Shot

1) Eye witness testimony is notoriously unreliable

2) Please provide a link to corroborate as a courtesy

 

You cannot rely on witnesses especially when there is obvious video evidence. They pulled the screen shot from a video. Why just release the screenshot when they have video? If you recall multiple "witnesses" claimed Mike Brown in Ferguson had his hands up saying don't shoot. We now all know that to be 100% false.

 

Wow! Massachusetts trying to outright ban stun guns was kind of surprising. Seems preferable to gun violence

 

and they were illegal in New York state until last year:

https://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/resources/stun-gun-laws-new-york.htm

 

Yes.

I'd like to bring up this case a few years ago that I remembered, but was finally able to find.



https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2...ngs-oliver-barcenas-damien-murray-no-charges/

Cop goes up to 4 guys drinking in public. Cop notices bulge in one of their associate's waistband. That guy takes off running and cop gives chase. Guy reaches down and cop shoots him in the back in a crowded street. No charges filed.

This case sets precedent that shooting someone in the back if they possess a lethal weapon is justified. The suspect didn't even have time to draw back and fire before the cop shot him.

In regards to Brooks and Rolfe, Brooks has a classified lethal weapon and fires it at Officer Rolfe who returns fire. Yet the book is thrown at Officer Rolfe. Immediate termination and overwhelming criminal charges.

 

That seems like a pretty terrible law given how many guns people carry around in this country legally and illegally.

Classifying a taser as a "lethal weapon" also strikes me as way wrong.

 

Now you want a video released.

Oh the irony.

So what else do you think the officer was doing in that screen shot.

 

This does not corroborate your statement that 10 witnesses say Brooks was kicked by the officers.

Like CML said, there's video of it. That will tell us what we need to know.

 

He was parked in the parking area by the time the police showed up.

 

Negative. First 30 seconds of the video shows where they found Brooks. Passed out in his running vehicle in line at the drive thru.

 

I agree with the findings of this case because the officer did not know if he had a gun which is irrelevant to this case because the officer knew it was a Taser and he had been searched before this happened.

It's amazing that now to some a Taser is equivalent to a hand gun.

 

i am not sure what you are getting at with the first part of your post but the officer could have easily been trying to slide the taser away from him before rendering aid. The still shot only proves that the officer had his foot close to Brooks. In no way does it prove a kick. I ask again, why the still shot when there is obvious video? As I have now said multiple times in this thread I am fully open to the officer having kicked him. I just want to see the video evidence rather than a screenshot.

 

Why would any of us not want a video released? How is this ironic in any way?

By the only still shot I could find, it does not look like he's being kicked.



It looks like the officer is stepping over the body (perhaps even tripping). His left arm appears to be reaching for his radio for some reason. I don't know how you can kick someone when their body is behind you (as the officer's shadow indicates), but here we are.

 

I should not have equated the 10 witnesses to seeing the kick but they interviewed 10 people and some of those witnesses saw the kick which does not align to your Occams razor theory.

Yes the still was from a video so we will know eventually.

it's amazing that you sound like CML in your defense of the cop.

Cats and Dogs people.

 

The unreliability of eye witness testimony, and the fact we don't know how many witnesses or what witnesses claim this, means this doesn't really collide with my theory. We'll know when the video drops. I'd bet a lot that the simplest explanations bear out to be the truth.

Not really amazing. CML is a great poster and I appreciate his takes. We need more conservatives like him around. I'm happy to call things as I see it. Half of these threads I get called a Nazi and half I get called a Pinko. Sorry I don't fit into your preconceived box.

 

I always want the video to be released but usually his type is arguing against releasing a video.

That angle is terrible but it hard for me to believe that now you think video and evidence is being used to frame a cop?

Do you think the DA is that stupid and the video will not go to the defense?

 

Defending the cop??? I do not think the cop should be charged with murder but I am not on board with him shooting Brooks. I am also not on board with him kicking him either if that did happen. I just want to see the entire video evidence. It is fishy to me to release just a screen shot when they release so much other video.

 

Who are the posters that usually call you that?

the majority of them are Trump supporters and conservatives.

 

It's a good point that there's something on the ground yellow colored (like the taser) in the still shot. The Officer could very easily be trying to remove the weapon there. Of course some video or timestamps would help.