If You Take An Officer's Taser In Fight With The Officer That You Started, You Deserve Getting Shot

Stop supporting and enabling violent crime against police. You hurt marginalized communities more than racism.

 

Ironic.

When it comes to black people all you do is talk about violent crime when 99% of black people don't do it.

I honestly think you might be the dumbest person on these forums.

 

No one pulled the trigger until after a suspect threw them to the ground, stole their weapon and ran away, then turned around to point it at them and fired.
In georgia, a taser is a deadly weapon, over a 1,000 people have been killed from tasers in the past decade. no debating this.

number of leo's in the us is around 700,000. you CANNOT expect all of them to be perfect at takedowns every day. They cannot all be above and beyond, trained NAVY seals, if that was a requirement, you'd have even less officers on the streets. Maybe half. plus, we're in a climate that wants any kind of force used by officers, ie chokeholds, completely disbarred. The officers are not exemplary, but they're not at fault, and there's no real debate about it.

if you want to set up a team of sjw's who tend to these cases without weapons or any real world experience, i'm all for it. they can be the heroes they want people to think they are. set up zones in poor neighborhoods where cops don't enter, only sjw healers. let's test it out and let the results speak for themselves.

but as someone who wants to better the lives of others, i would focus on him being passed out for half an hour while drunk driving. he could have killed anyone after the order. once it gets to that point, his actions escalated and the police acted accordingly.

 

Privileged racism at it's finest. im being generous enough to respond to yet another racist attack from you.

There are more poor hispanics than poor blacks. Most have been in this country far shorter and work blue collar jobs.

So why is 60% of violent crime is committed by 13% of the population , that isn't hispanic? Or non hispanic whites, who are double in size when it comes to those living in poverty?

Instead of attacking me, ask yourself - Are you doing enough to enforce accountability in your community? is self hate addressed before hating others? has your response to this video, or anyone that is honest with you, allowed the problem to continue?

Based on the response to this video, we see why it continues.

 

The one thing that no one's talking about in this instance - Brooks potential to do harm to bystanders to facilitate his escape.

The guy has already proven he will take on the cops to escape. If he will fight them , who won't he fight / take on ?
If they give up the chase .... what happens when he carjacks someone or who knows what else ?

That cop wasn't just protecting himself but also all the bystanders in the area.

I hate to see the guy dead over it .... but these are the consequences of his actions - If it were my red ass , I'd expect to be shot.

 

Lol, all of your posts make no sense when you take them all at one glance, you flip flop at will and just...everywhere. Nothing you say has any meaning and when confronted with being wrong you throw out some moral high ground BS. I really hope this is a troll job otherwise I really do pity you.

So an example of this... "Privileged racism at it's finest." where in my post did I display ANY racism? Nah, lets make this clear, I was insulting you. No one else.

Hispanics never had to go through civil rights or slavery. Comparing the two just shows you are simple minded and think two things are similar when they really not. As you even mention, some hispanics can pass for white, probably about 1% of black people can do that.

Also, the hypocritical nature of your post is just so bold. You tell people to stop focusing on the 1% yet its ALL you do. 99% of black people don't commit violent crime, why do you then focus on the 1% that do?

This is your moral high ground BS you do when you realize the person you're talking to hasn't bought your faux intellectualism.

 

Now to go after this post because it is a classic Senator post. A complete gish-gallop that I didn't even read and just saw the 99% part in someone else's quote because I realized a long time ago the more words you have in a post the less meaning they actually have.

Based on what evidence? Also, what about all the instances of this that DON'T go viral? Where the cops successfully cover up their own wrong doing so no one hears a word about it?

Factually 100% wrong. Violent crime has been decreasing for a while now.

Huh? Yeah, when Tupac was shot I heard his killers did it in the name of slavery. WTF are you even on here?

Who are you talking about? Maybe you have affirmative action confused for something else.

Who? I honestly can't remember a black politician, celeb, or anyone of note that has called for open borders.

Ahh the usual "YOU ARE MEAN TO TRUMP!" argument.

And after 4 years of Trump there are riots and the president threatening to use the military on his own citizens.

Accountability for what? You keep going on and on about accountability but you won't say for what exactly, it's just some vague term like "Culture" that you throw around because you're too much of a coward to say what you really mean.

Ahh the usual "I'm the smart one and everyone that disagrees with me is stupid" route.

You think everyone around you is dumb when it's really just you're so stupid you don't even realize it.

I'm actually amazed at how you go through every thread, do the same thing over and over, race-bait, moral high horse rants, complete straw men and argue with yourself, then come back and do it all over again.

 

Yup he truly did. Protecting them by almost killing them by. The same cop shot right beside a car almost hitting people inside the vehicle.

 

I'm a librul. My whole life is dedicated to enabling and supporting violent crime. That's all I've wanted since I was a little baby. That's why I do it every day on this website. I enable and support violent crime and criminals.

 

There were zero reasons to think that Brooks would hurt random people. First of all, that wouldn't help him escape. The cops had zero reasons to believe he'd randomly attack somebody else not involved in his arrest.

He might have endangered another person if that person inserted themselves into the situation and tried to handcuff or apprehend Brooks. Why would another person do that?

The cop wasn't protecting bystanders in the area because they weren't in danger from Brooks. They were more in danger by a missed shot from the police.

 

True stuff happens and once in that video the suspects get's hold of a firearm in that case the LEO certainly was justified to use deadly force. The situation with Brooks isn't exactly that case and as noted LEO Rolfe decides to escalate to lethal force before. Yes anything could happen but the question is when do you decide to escalate to lethal force.

LEO Noor's defense was that when he shot Justine Ruscyck there recently had been ambushes of LEO so when responding to a call in an alley he felt that anything could happened and that justified him not only having his firearm drawn and in his hand as soon as he entered the alley but also shooting at the first sign of provocation. His view was that well anything could happen in this situation so might as well be ready to use deadly force sooner than later. That defense was rejected as being irresponsible.

 

A serious question. Did you ever support or agree with BLM?

 

how many people had Brooks hurt in his previous arrests? Just curious. On video he seemed like a chill guy. Then snap! He’s down to resisting, and pulling a taser, which he probably hoped was a gun....

 

I'm always very delicate when I've put a submission technique on..

As related note I was working on what I call "Drunk Buddy Self-Defense" This was based on incidents in my own life and incidents that my students were dealing with. As much of my students were college aged males most of the time self-defense was them was dealing with people they knew acting out from being drunk. The type of kick the crotch and gouge out the eyes self-defense that get's taught doesn't really apply when it's a buddy who's had too many. So I worked on techniques designed to control and defuse the situation but could easily be transitioned to greater force. Unfortunately didn't get around to getting them on video but when the COVID 19 shut downs end and can get back to doing MA will shoot a few.

 

Dont cancel me but i dont think the charges against the secondary officer are warranted. And the murder charge will be problematic for the prosecutors. Hopefully angry people will not loot when the murder charge doesnt stick as the DA said a taser was a deadly weapon two weeks ago.

 

I completely agree Brooks shouldn't have been let go but the question to me is if and when is lethal force justified. I didn't jump on saying that this was unjustified and still think there is grey area in this case. What led me to change my opinion is that it appears that Rolfe decided to switch to lethal force when there still were other options available, when he switches hands on his taser to draw his firearm.

Regarding protecting the bystanders this a difficult question because the obvious answer is that the suspect is a threat. The problem though is that in pursuits bystanders have been hurt by LE. This is why many PD's no longer allow hi speed pursuits in cities. The idea of using tasers isn't just to be humane to suspects but also to reduce the need of using firearms. IF you miss the bullet still goes somewhere and trying to shoot someone while you're both running is difficult.

 

Honest answer: It’s so unclear of what BLM the organization stands for. You have people doing the wrong things in the name of BLM.

I agree and support the concept that Black lives do matter and there is a serious problem with LEO continuing to repeat theses murders and to date, there has been no reform. Something needs to be done. The peaceful protests in MN and other cities (Houston for example) was a sign of solidarity to show our leaders the people want change. When it turns into looting, random assaults, arson....that’s when I’m sickened. I know the people doing this aren’t the core of the organization but they are often seen yelling “black lives matter!” When doing it. It’s up to the people who don’t want this element in their organized movement to weed them out and say this isn’t us. I’m not sure I’ve heard or seen that and I don’t understand why.

There’s also a political activism element to BLM. They are organized and funded and even take money to donate to their politician of choice, like a PAC.

 

Fair enough. When you said you were done with BLM I was wondering if you ever supported them.

I agree BLM is very nebulous and I've been very upset when people justify or excuse the burning looting in the name of BLM. I also think there are cases that BLM champions that are probably not worth getting behind.

 

Really? Someone who fought the police and tried to steal a policeman's weapon? I think there are many reasons to think Brooks was dangerous. It's quite clear from watching the video. Also, look at his priors. It's a laundry list of violence. Wake up dude.

 

This post raises a couple of important points.

I totally agree that being an LEO is a very difficult job. I know for a fact that it is very difficult to take and submit someone who doesn't want to be. The difference though between my view and the view expressed here is that I expect more from LEO while this post is saying we should just accept less.

Lives literally are at stake here and if those who are sworn to protect and serve aren't able to get the job done that puts not only suspects but also the LEO themselves and the general public at risk. Now thankfully the vast vast majority of interactions with LEO are peaceful given that the stakes are literally life and death when things go wrong we need to examine them, learn from them and yes hold people responsible. That is why when I see things like the video that B@ffled posted. What I see first isn't a situation where LEO are justified to use lethal force but where LEO are performing so poorly that it results in them having to go to lethal force.

I will say again that this case is grey and at the moment I don't know enough about GA law to say whether I think the charge is right. I do think going to lethal force was unjustified and given LEO Rolfe's behavior before and after the shooting it seems like he let his emotions get the better of him. It is important to learn from this case and others and if LE are serious instead of walking off from this because of public pressure they should use this to improve.