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Tupac's Changes is the most important hip hop song today

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  1. tinman

    tinman 999999999
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    update: Lyrics metioned by Floyd's niece during her speech




    Played in NYC too


    Drake
    Future
    Migos
    Tekashi69
    Lil Twist
    Lil Xan

    None of today's rappers have any meaningful songs
    and they can't compete with the flawless poetry of Tupac

    I mean Sicko Mode has no social meaning

    @Os Trigonum @Reeko


    Come on, come on
    I see no changes, wake up in the morning and I ask myself
    Is life worth living, should I blast myself?
    I'm tired of bein' poor and even worse I'm black
    My stomach hurts, so I'm lookin' for a purse to snatch
    Cops give a damn about a negro
    Pull the trigger, kill a *****, he's a hero
    Give the crack to the kids who the hell cares
    One less hungry mouth on the welfare
    First ship 'em dope and let 'em deal the brothers
    Give 'em guns, step back, watch 'em kill each other
    It's time to fight back that's what Huey said
    Two shots in the dark, now Huey's dead
    I got love for my brother but we can never go nowhere
    Unless we share with each other
    We gotta start makin' changes
    Learn to see me as a brother instead of two distant strangers
    And that's how it's supposed to be
    How can the devil take a brother, if he's close to me?
    I'd love to go back to when we played as kids
    But things changed, that's the way it is
    Come on, come on, that's just the way it is
    Things will never be the same, that's just the way it is
    Aww, yeah
    Come on, come on, that's just the way it is
    Things will never be the same, that's just the way it is
    Aww, yeah
    I see no changes, all I see is racist faces
    Misplaced hate makes disgrace to races
    We under, I wonder what it takes to make this
    One better place, let's erase the wasted
    Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right
    'Cause mo' black and white is smokin' crack tonight
    And only time we chill is when we kill each other
    It takes skill to be real, time to heal each other
    And although it seems heaven sent
    We ain't ready, to see a black President
    It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact
    The penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks
    But some things will never change
    Try to show another way but you stayin' in the dope game
    Now tell me, what's a mother to do?
    Bein' real don't appeal to the brother in you
    You gotta operate the easy way
    I made a G today, but you made it in a sleazy way
    Sellin' crack to the kid, I gotta get paid
    Well hey, well, that's the way it is
    Come on, come on, that's just the way it is
    Things will never be the same, that's just the way it is
    Aww, yeah
    Come on, come on, that's just the way it is
    Things will never be the same, that's just the way it is
    Aww, yeah
    We gotta make a change
    It's time for us as a people to start makin' some changes
    Let's change the way we eat, let's change the way we live
    And let's change the way we treat each other
    You see, the old way wasn't working so it's on us to do
    What we gotta do, to survivem
    And still I see no changes, can't a brother get a little peace?
    There's war in the streets and war in the Middle East
    Instead of war on poverty, they got a war on drugs
    So the police can bother me
    And I ain't never did a crime, I ain't have to do
    But now, I'm back with the facts givin' 'em back to you
    Don't let 'em jack you up, back you up
    Crack you up and pimps smack you up
    You gotta learn to hold ya own
    They get jealous when they see ya, with ya mobile phone
    But tell the cops, they can't touch this
    I don't trust this, when they try to rush I bust this
    That's the sound of my tool, you say it ain't cool?
    My mama didn't raise no fool
    And as long as I stay black, I gotta stay strapped
    And I never get to lay back
    'Cause I always got to worry 'bout the pay backs
    Some buck that I roughed up way back
    Comin' back after all these years
    Rat-a-tat, tat, tat, tat, that's the way it is
    That's just the way it is
    Things will never be the same, that's just the way it is
    Aww, yeah
    That's just the way it is
    Things will never be the same, that's just the way it is
    Aww, yeah
    Some things will never change
     
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    We ain't ready to see another Black president...

    So we can change, but there's enough people who want to change it back.

    Violence isn't the cure.
     
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    Well I agree Changes is an important song. I would say this is more relevant and important.

     
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    @justtxyank Can we get these tinman threads moved to the hangout? I don't mind them but they just don't belong here.
     
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    2pac
    Won’t be silenced

    Don’t blame me if the D&D is a bunch of narrow minded and uncultured fools

    We need to educate them
     
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    George Floyd's niece just quoted Tupac's Changes at the Funeral in Houston
    @Os Trigonum

    Now what D&D?!
     
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    The other 99ers have got to be embarrased by you.
     
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    George Floyd's niece just quoted this song

    (toward the end before the montage)



    but I guess you don't really care about the topics on threads
    do you

    @Clutch
    @justtxyank
    @Reeko
    @Jontro
    @Os Trigonum
    I guess it's free to troll on this board
     
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    It is a pretty great song but I'm thinking Fight the Power might be more relevant.
     
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    Not for George Floyd's Niece who wasn't old enough to remember Tupac but sure knows his music

    @KingCheetah @Ziggy @Rocket River



    She ended with TUPAC
     
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    Oh the irony.
     
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    Tupac is more overrated than Mike Tyson.

    #HotTake
    #OhNoHeDidnt
     
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    The words of Changes are amazing. Lyrical poetry, and moving. However musically I've always been kinda meh about the mid 90's style of just rapping on top of a look with only an added hip hop kick drum, hi hat, and a dry snare on top of loop of a pop song.

    Different times too, but I think This is America hit me a little harder when it came out and the video ties in so many different elements that really capture the issues plaguing the black community in this country.

    You could also pick about a dozen Tribe songs too that came out of that era that are head a shoulders above Pac from a thematic relevance perspective.
     
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    #ShotsFired
    #YesHeDid.
     
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    This.

    Or some X Clan songs.

    Vanglourious.

     
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    Tupac’s music will last forever

    damn, the hurt and pain from his niece...nobody should ever have to see a loved one die like that...to be begging and pleading for their life like that

    his 6 yo daughter has to see that...heartbreaking
     
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    but the youth of today still finds Tupac relevant

    yes I feel you about Tribe
    They would be still here today if Phif took his diabetes seriously
     
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    The context is that this song is relevant
    Today for this movement

    So I see other people post other songs
    That’s fine

    But one song was quote at George Floyd’s funeral
    By his niece

    She was awesome, and obviously has much better taste as kid as some of you cheapskates
     
    #20 tinman, Jun 9, 2020
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