No it isn't, especially as they are discussing doing it in the absence of a plan. But, please, by all means, do share all the ways having no police would be a good idea, or how you think that could work?
It's not possible to have a city without a police force. I have yet to see anyone of any significance actually propose that either.
Very naughty language, but pretty damn spot-on Money quote: “Defunding the police absolutely does not mean that we eliminate all cops and just succumb to the purge. Instead, it’s about moving away from a narrow conception of public safety that relies on policing and punishment and investing in a community’s actual safety net.”
Well...if there are no police, I would not support that. Did you read the councilman's comments I posted?
They are talking about disbanding in Minneapolis and New York. That is total. How many people here would just love to travel to NYC knowing there were no police there at all? Partial defunding is discussable, depending on where the funds are directed, and whether that will lead to less crime. Still a knee jerk reaction, but perhaps one that could be made workable. Disbanding is just a stupid idea...and any council members in favor of it should be removed from office for extreme dereliction of duty, and putting the public in extreme risk. How many people here would feel really safe if there were just no police? What do you think would happen in that situation? Would any of it actually be good?
Like with Covid response, mail-in voting, and stimulus via UBI, I don't like how we lurch to proposed new policy frameworks on an emergency basis with no time to vet and consider, much less beta test solutions. DtP has some legitimate policy rationale but I think we're in for a hard road of figuring out how to make it work by still doing development work in the production environment. At the same time, I appreciate that any movement at all in this direction was going to be nigh impossible (or a long time in coming) without a catalyzing crisis. So maybe moving forward with a messy process is better than not advancing at all. But, as a general rule, I'd say you're going to get a better policy outcome with reform than with revolution. And while it is costly (in human life even) to delay change, DtP runs the risk of creating new problems even if it solves old ones, and may delegitimize itself in the eyes of voters and open itself to counter-revolution. Good intentions aren't enough; if Minneapolis or other DtP-minded city screws up the implementation, the law-and-order reactionaries will be back in charge and eager to implement their own vision. Rather selfish, but I'm glad it'll be other cities like Minneapolis taking the lead on this. Houston can implement best practices after letting other cities suffer through the experiments.
That’s the story of almost every cities that are in trouble now. The city council is run by a bunch of imbeciles making absolutely terrible choices. They’re ruining the city of Seattle too, which I live close by.
A lot of people calling for the dismantling of the police are not saying we do not need police, they want to rebuild the police force with different training and philosophical goals. Even BLM acknowledges that the issue isn't as simple as black people. There is a combination of race, socioeconomic and other other factors. This is why some people want to defund the police and start with a new force. The current culture, roll and expectation of police officers is toxic. The force attracts ex military and some people that should not be officers. Further, you can not have a toxic personality and develop one when the culture surrounding you is toxic.
There was a reason I said 'not yet'. I was going to go look at them. So, what exactly then is the purpose of your post, other than to make you feel better castigating others, which is the way of the left? This is why most people wouldn't even respond to the question asked ('have you looked at....?). Because of pointless comments like yours, that only serve to stifle any conversation, not promote it. Meaning you don't get what the protests are about at all, or what to do going forward, do you? Still feel better?
Who is that posting from? I mean, are we at the stage where a college sociology professor is how you react to policy? And you talk about TDS?
