I remember back in the day people use to make fun of Minnesota.. They do drive by snow balls... They are forreal now.
Expected and excused are two different things. Yes I can expect that in an incident like this there very well might be violence and looting. I can also expect that if the Vikings won the Super Bowl there would also be violence and looting. I'm saying it's not to be excused. I'm saying it's not be clothed in rationalizations.. I'm also saying that most of the people hurt by these riots are those very same people being oppressed. I also pointed out that many of the people looting and burning weren't even people that can claim historic oppression. Is that the language of the unheard? Everyone is focusing on those oppressed people ignoring the fact that there white suburban kids also out looting because they saw others doing the same thing and wanted to come into the city and f^% sh^t up! But apparently that's not some of y'all's concern..
MLK was unpopular in his life because he preached for economic justice that many Americans felt were communistic. If we're talking about economic justice where is the justice for the owners who have had their stores burned and looted? I saw an interview on CBS with a black business owner who's business was looted. During the interview someone tried to break in and steal his safe. I know what it's like to be Asian and I wouldn't condone excuse or justify if George Floyd had been Asian and it was mostly Asians doing the burning and looting. I would say the exact same thing. Don't burn you F6(&ing neighborhood down! I'll give though a somewhat related example. Regarding Hong Kong I've brought up that Hong Kong is a major humiliation to the Chinese people as the British won during a war that was fought so the Brits could keep on dealing drugs to the Chinese. I've also pointed out how the Chinese suffered a century of humiliation at the hands of foreign powers like the British and Japanese. That said I am very uneasy with violent HK protests. Most of the protests in HK haven't had looting and are very much focused on the HKPD and the serveilance apparatus. If the protesters in HK started looting and burning businesses that have nothing to do with HKPD or state I would condemn them.
I still don't understand your point. I believe you are trying to point out a contradiction but I'm not understanding?
no contradiction. you're saying you don't think that riots are the inevitable outcome of 400 years of oppression, and I agree. after all, Jews have been oppressed since pre-Christian times, and we don't see Jews rising up in riots/protests every few years. So clearly these protests in Minnesota have another causal explanation instead of 400 years of oppression.
Any arson arrests yet? I feel bad for the small businesses. Minneapolis will rebuild but it may take a decade.
Sorry there must have been some sort of miscommunication here I think it's the exact opposite. Also the comparison to Jewish oppression is a bad one. When we discuss the "Jewish people" we are discussing group of people who live all over the world where there isn't a single governmental institution such as the United States that had influence on their socioeconomic conditions for 400 years where you can trace a single lineage back. Also the type discrimination between Jews and Africans are completely different and have completely different outcomes. The discrimination of Jews in modern human history was centered around people believing they are intelligent schemers who manipulate the media and banking institutions in the background. They weren't seen as manual labor work horses (not referring to Biblical times) like Africans were. Also their intelligence wasn't questioned. Hence, there isn't a corollary example of a group of Jewish people having restricted access to educational opportunities and high skilled professions like African Americans were for 400 years consecutively with the same exact lineage of people. The consequences of type of discrimination Jews experienced from being perceived as these manipulative schemers were being kicked out and mass murdered. Horrible atrocious consequences but not the same type of consequences of being told your lineage of people are only good for manual labor and are more violence prone which leads to limits educational opportunities and job opportunities which results in systemic poverty over a long extended time frame of multiple generations.
so let me see if I understand so being persecuted and mass murdered (among other things) doesn't lead the descendants of those who were murdered to riot whereas being told your lineage of people is only good for manual labor and are violence prone leads people (their descendants) today to riot . . . violently?
