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[Graphic: Death shown] I found a genuine reason for armed protests.

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by fchowd0311, May 26, 2020.

  1. fchowd0311

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    What was the punchline of that joke?
     
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    Seems like an appropriate charge to me. Overcharging and trying to satisfy the elements of a higher charge may result in the guy walking.
     
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    I am really not here for your bullshit today.
     
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    I think it's fair to bring up the Biden "ain't black" comment when appropriate. In this case, I don't know how fair it is if whataboutism is being injected. Not saying that's the purpose here.. I think Amaru was mostly throwing it in jest.

    But Biden, and especially Obama talking to the family of Floyd is something positive assuming they are doing so to help console. I think both Obama and Biden really have the experience, and position in our society to have that earned respected role.

    Of course though in the aspect of selecting the next President for 2021 to 2024, your actual record is VERY OPEN to scrutiny, and making a comment like the one he made was a moment to remind Biden that even with the position our nation he has EARNED with goodwill, he is still in no position to speak to the African American community like that. I think he knows he messed up, and I don't think it's something that should define EVERYTHING about Biden and race relations. I don't think that's fair to have that be what defines him every single time anything race wise is brought up.
     
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  5. fchowd0311

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    When a prominent politician reaches out to a family in a highly charged race related incident, I'm sorry but a racially charge comment from said politician made just days ago is going to be referenced and commented on.
     
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    I watched the entire interview with Biden and Charlamange. There was absolutely no reason for Biden to make the comment he made unless that’s how he truly felt. Biden was asked very specific questions that he apparently didn’t have real answers for so he lashed out.

    But it goes deeper than Biden. The Democratic Party takes the black vote for granted. They feel that all they have to do to get our votes is to show up. Biden seemed shocked by the notion that he should be required to compete for the support of black people.

    Also Biden wasn’t joking anymore than Trump was when he asked if you could inject cleaning chemicals into people to combat COVID-19
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    By no means am I against Biden talking to the family. My defense of amaru was merely stating that making an in jest comment about his "you ain't black" comment given the context seems pretty natural and normal. I don't think he was asking for a lengthy Biden debate in this thread but @jiggyfly really took offense to it which kinda steamrolled into a debate regarding Biden.
     
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    Yeah only if you want to stir **** up, you notice only one person went there.
     
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    What was bs about that question? I'm not the one defending Biden's "you ain't black" statement.
     
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    And right on que we are questioning the democratic party?

    Really?

    I knew this was where you were going and it has zero to do with the topic.

    I am not going to continue to derail this thread.

    I'm out.
     
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    Yeah that was my take too. I think if it was one of the normal Trumpers I could see them bringing it up to spark a whataboutism argument, but I doubt that was the intent because we know the post history. I think the most infuriating thing about the Biden comment is that we just know its whataboutism candy for the Trump to use about anything race relations. I really haven't seen any progressives here or really anywhere using this moment to go there to dig at Biden.
     
  12. Hakeemtheking

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    Never heard about a charge of murder in the 3rd degree. Anyone?

    The other 3 cops will also be charged, at least accessory to murder because they facilitated the crime.
     
  13. fchowd0311

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    Bro it's okay to criticize the Democratic party. They aren't infallible. It makes you lose credibility with debating people you disagree with if you pretend your tribe is perfect.
     
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    You just can't help yourself can you?
     
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    It becomes part of the topic when a Democrat who is not in any office, or even the same state, injects himself into the situation. It makes it seem like he’s trying to blow past his insensitive comments
     
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    3rd degree murder charge is trash imo. It's basically involuntary manslaughter. They're basically saying Derek Chauvin killed George Floyd by accident. and didn't intend on him dying. But putting your knee on someone's neck and pressing your entire body weight on it, not getting off when the man pleaded with you that he could not breathe, then keep your knee and weight on him a few minutes after he was clearly passed out and not a threat anymore shows intent. That's 2nd Degree Murder imo.

    I guess it's better than nothing, but it's bittersweet.
     
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    Ok.

    That's exactly what that means.:rolleyes:

    How is he blowing past them when he has apologized for them?
     
  18. amaru

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    I thought you were leaving.
     
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  19. fchowd0311

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    This is the damage of Trump. Since he never apologizes, another candidate doing the politically correct move to apologize understanding his voting base and the party he is in is somehow praiseworthy. It's just a significantly low bar and it's impossible to tell if his apology was sincere or an apology of political expedience.
     
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    I agree. Third degree murder is more appropriate to me, if you out your knee on his neck to bring him under control and accidentally broke his neck and killed him.


    7 and a half minutes is second degree.

    I guess a badge is worth a rung lower on the crime scale.
     
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