Yes, because Flynn is stepping stone. Flynn is a wealthy individual who can afford the best lawyers and has zero excuse for "booted thugs forcing a confession". Flynn is a 0.01%er and your progressives are so invested in minimizing the Russian scandal, it shows. How do you think cases are made in white collar crime that borders on treason?
LOL. Flynn is a 0.001%er, he choose to hide his assets overseas and away from his family and government.
With all due respect, I don’t think you get why people like me care. It’s not about the crime of lying to the FBI. If you read what I actually said, it’s pretty clear that in a vacuum I’m very critical of the crime being something someone should lose their freedoms over, but I explain the context which it looks like you overlooked. This Flynn situation is about one thing.... corruption of the Justice System and a regime who is taking a sledge hammer to Democracy in a way that affects solving problems like the ones you alluded to. If we do not have a functioning Democracy, people like Bernie Sanders lose the freedoms they have to impact real change. If Trump, his soldiers like Barr, the propaganda network, and the old rich white billionaires who fund this system all have their way, they will turn our Democracy more and more into a functioning tool to more injustice on those in our society they see as a drain to their bank accounts in Bermuda. Climate Change... Covid 19... these are things they see as disasters they will be immune to that will only hurt the poor, and those outside of their club of white rich people and maybe a Jay Z or some black entertainer who they can pal around with to make them feel cool. The Michael Flynn case of pure justice department political influence is important because it’s another chip away at our Democracy and a path that leads further down the rabbit hole of Oligarchy where they can take our Justice System and weaponize it to hurt those that stand in the way of their politics and give special treatment to those who they owe personal favors to. If the Justice Department can do this, how long do you think they can ignore the law and start targeting people like Bernie Sanders because their political message is inconvenient to their bottom line??
How was Flynn identified if they were just listening to Kislyak's phone calls and there were no unmasking requests related to the Kislyak call? https://www.nationalreview.com/2020...is-when-he-was-not-masked-in-the-first-place/
So what is it? Are we supposed to be up in arms because Biden requested an unmasking and leaked it or that Flynn was the one being survellled? Asking for a friend.
I think this guy qualifies as an expert on the topic... Bio: George W. Croner, a Senior Fellow in the Program on National Security at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, is a 1975 graduate of the U.S. Naval Academy (with distinction) and a 1980 graduate of the University of Pennsylvania Law School (with honors). From 1984 through 1988, while holding the highest security clearance authorized by the U.S. government (TS/SCI), Mr. Croner served in the Operations Division of the Office of General Counsel at the National Security Agency (NSA) which had legal oversight responsibility for NSA’s signals intelligence (SIGINT) operations, including compliance with the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA). During this same period, Mr. Croner also was NSA’s principal litigation counsel and, in that capacity, represented NSA’s interests in a variety of litigation matters implicating the security interests of NSA’s SIGINT operations including: Westmoreland v. CBS (the defamation lawsuit brought by General William Westmoreland that raised issues concerning the intelligence information used to assess North Vietnamese troop strength during the Vietnam War); U.S. v. John Walker (espionage prosecution); U.S. v. Jerry Whitworth (espionage prosecution); U.S. v. Wu-tai Chin (espionage prosecution); and U.S. v. Ronald Pelton (espionage prosecution). The Pelton case, in particular, involved some of NSA’s then-most sensitive SIGINT collection programs. Mr. Croner was awarded a Defense Meritorious Service Medal (DMSM) for his work in connection with these espi-onage prosecutions. In addition to these litigation matters, Mr. Croner also served as the NSA representative to the White House interagency group assembled to review and, where possible, declassify intelligence information associated with the Iran-Contra investigation. In this capacity he assisted the Tower Commission, congressional intelligence committees, and the Independent Counsel regarding security matters related to the use and understanding of NSA intelligence product. For his efforts with the interagency group, Mr. Croner received a letter of appreciation from President Ronald Reagan, and was awarded a second DMSM. Following his service with NSA, Mr. Croner spent 28 years in the private practice of law but, after leaving NSA, he maintained his interest in NSA and electronic surveillance as it relates to the collection of foreign intelligence information. His work and publications regarding FISA, signals intelligence and foreign intelligence collection have appeared on multiple media platforms, and he is a member of the The Association of Former Intelligence Officers. Mr. Croner also serves on the Advisory Council for the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law at the University of Pennsylvania.
For all of y'all up in arms about coerced pleas and aggressive Law Enforcement I challenge you to donate to this group. https://www.innocenceproject.org/do...MI9YH-s6W76QIVicDACh3n0gBOEAAYASAAEgKsKvD_BwE
@Commodore is on the right track. It's about the timeline of the unmasking requests. He was in the Dominican for that particular call. And he was specifically accused of lying about talking to the ambassador about Obama's recent sanctions. But sanctions were never brought up. The explosions of the Russians. So the whole lie charge was wrong to begin with and the FBI refused to provide the 302's which was exculpatory. https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592.160.23.pdf It's spelled out pretty clear. The judge is a political moron for letting this go further. It's just opening more doors for criticism.
And try and convict without evidence. Turns out, the evidence was not the notes, it was the confession. You will be able to find record of the lie, in Flyns plea agreement, which he signed. Its seems like you and your tribe still don't quite understand whats going on at all.
Apparently the children of republicans never learned what Ken Starr did to Bill Clinton and how those same people were so rigid on perjury or "lying"
... and, btw, the number of "unmaskings" has increased dramatically under the trump administration...
https://www.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592/gov.uscourts.dcd.191592.160.23.pdf Here's Flynn's motion to withdraw. He offers up an explanation about the confession. You can choose to believe him or not.
Believe the confessed liar on which occasion? The time he admitted to lying? Or the time he changed his mind as to whether he lied? And even if you go by his changed story, he uses wiggle phrases, like "I don't remember discussing sanctions" and using "tit for tat" phrases. How discussions of sanctions weren't important. How busy he was. And... how his words weren't in his own "voice".
I don't care what Flynn says, because I understand what how all this works. The "lying" charge was a lesser charge Flynn agreed to take to avoid prosecution for other more serious crimes, as part of a cooperation agreement. It really doesn't matter if he lied or not because the feds were likely never going to try and charge him with that crime nor were they going to have to prove it, had he not cooperated. It was an olive branch.
Dude was fired not because he was under investigation but rather because he lied to Pence. I doubt they'll bring him back unless there's some juicy Obama distraction they can pin him with.
So ***** it and try him. Who do you think would win? BTW, he was accused of lying about discussing sanctions to the FBI. But all records indicate it was the expulsion that was discussed. You're not gonna budge on this. To me, it's not about Flynn, the person that the FBI set up. It's about the fact that the FBI set this up and how and all that. You know the things, you are cool with since it suits your political view. The point of the link is that it's the real document. Not a retweet of someone's opinion about that document. I go to twitter for that.