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Obamagate

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Carl Herrera, May 11, 2020.

  1. jiggyfly

    jiggyfly Member

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    This guy.

    So let me get this straight, this guy says that unmasking is not illegal but then goes on to say Biden might have leaked the info to the media with zero evidence and never mentions that there were 40 other people on that list.

    Yeah they are going full on Fox.
     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Trump is far less popular than Obama even at Obama's least supported moments. Obama warned Trump about Flynn. Trump got all of the daily briefings and there was no secret plot. It's just silly.
     
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    Best Potus Ever
     
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    He's back!
     
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    So Trump is a proponent of throwing former Presidents in prison? Good to know.
     
  7. SamFisher

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    Who? Where does it come from?
     
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    Cheney's chest.
     
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  9. Carl Herrera

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    Does it benefit Trump to bring Obama into this fight with Biden?
     
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  10. rocketsjudoka

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    You're making a lot of assumptions here. First off the unmasking wasn't some darkly hidden secret. It was out there already. Second saying that Obama officials all knew Flynn wasn't guilty how were they to know that when he plead guilty twice? Further Flynn hasn't been exonerated. No court has found him not guilty. The DOJ has dropped their pursuit and he withdrew his guilty plea but that doesn't mean he's exonerated. In fact this could case could still come up again.

    Also regarding Trump being a stooge of Putin well you saw him say himself he trusts Putin more than he trust our intelligence service.

    Speaking of such and this is a bit of diversion but I find it interesting that you're defending Trump considering you were a very large backing of the invasion of Iraq and that we needed to trust the intelligence about Saddam. Yet Trump campaigned on that it was a horrible mistake and that the Bush 43 Administration was wrong. Do you now agree then that that invasion was a mistake?
     
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  11. tallanvor

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    He was basing it off the timelines. It leaked when biden did the unmasking. Thats not proof though obviously. Need to see unmasking justifications. One would also point out that those other officials have a reason to ubmask as they are intelligence officers, biden is one of the ones who isn't so why is he unmasking?
     
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    Only in so much that it shores up his standing with rank and file Republicans who may be feeling doubtful. This is inline with what he has done. Ramp up enthusiasm of the base with no attempt to expand his appeal.
     
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  13. jiggyfly

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    There where 40 other people on that list, why is that not on the timeline?

    Biden did not unmask it was a request and we do not know if he ever got that info, unmasking is not illegal nor him requesting is not illegal.

    Has a VP never asked for unmasking before?
     
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    ...I hope I'm on that list.

    ...I can pretend to be as Kenyan as the last president was...
    ...and I'd take any excuse to unmask.

    ...this thing itches like crazy....;)
     
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    well he built his base by being a birther
     
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    Then don’t use crooked associates with foreign ties. How do you feel about Trump hiring Flynn while he was a registered agent of Turkey?

    For the matter what do you think of a registered foreign agent helping with an American presidential campaign?
     
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    not on the same day the information was leaked

    Biden did unmask. its his name on the request form and it would be his justification on the form (that needs to be made public)

    No idea, but i doubt it. you unmask for investigations. A VP does not do investigations. that's the intelligence agencies.
     
  18. No Worries

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    Trump's very, very, very large brain does not need facts/evidence just "gut instincts".
     
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    Oh, please, please, let them be that stupid.
     
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  20. jiggyfly

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    Dude you are making no sense those other people were not on the list the info was leaked?

    Do you even understand what unmask is? Biden can't unmask he can request for the person to be unmasked, get your talking points straight.

    So you don't even know if its unusual for a VP to request for unmasking.

    Seems legit.
     
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