25 year old man murdered in Georgia for jogging while black

Yes he "charged them" after they blocked him with a truck and firearms without legal merit.

 

Just taking a quick breather from his jog!

 

The person you are taking about is dead. We arf discussing what charges should be filed on the individuals that chased the victim down with firearms in a truck.

 

Did they find any thing on him that was stolen? Did video show him taking anything from the construction site?

 

Yeah. Well he escalated it.... sorry man I know you want this to be clearly one-sided but it is not. I want to know if stand your ground applies to the jogger but since he took to the right and then somehow ended up on the left... it shows he closed thar gap and was not standing his ground but instead moving forward to escalate it. It will be interesting to hear all the facts though. Hey maybe they find clan costumes under their beds and recordings of them planning to kkkill. I doubt it... but hey you can hope so it fits your narrative.

 

You already "escalated" the situation when you surround someone with firearms in a truck. That's the part you either willfully don't understand or are genuinely that dumb to understand.

It's like saying a person who was kidnapped "escalated" the situation by getting free and bludgeoning the kidnapper with a hammer.

 

This video doesn't show anything other than someone taking a curious look at a construction site?

 

Clearly just a jogger.... not a guy looking to loot a construction site.

I would say if that is him then this is probable cause and reasonable suspicion that a felony offense occurred... giving those men every right to make a citizens arrest.

 

Look I'm not assuming it was a planned lynching or that they're wearing clan suits in secret but at the end of the day, they had no right to detain him or even suspect him of anything wrong. People looking around a construction site isn't that weird. They cornered him and he wasn't having it. It's clear cut manslaughter. If you're going to carry weapons and have a license it doesn't give you the freedom to be a dope with it.

 

It's a single piece to a larger puzzle. A puzzle that very likely points to Arbery as the burglary suspect that the McMichaels were trying to stop.

The reason I share this is because I do not believe ANYONE gets in their truck with guns to go stop a jogger for no reason. The reason I think the McMichaels did this was to apprehend someone who they thought burglarized this house... and in so doing, they believed they were protecting their neighborhood. So their intentions were good. The narrative is that their intentions were to just randomly hunt down a black jogger -- a narrative that we now know is just flat out wrong. The narrative sounded absurd when I first heard it, which is why I was surprised that so many people automatically accepted it. As a leader of people, I have an excellent grasp of human behavior - and I know a fake narrative when I hear one. If it's too simple to be true - it probably is false. Just one highly educated, highly experienced man's opinion!

 

They actually may have had the right to detain him. You have no evidence to the contrary which is why i say juuuust wait. Already more has come out today.

 

Plus people who plan to commit a hate crime or murder don't call the cops in advance.

 

I don't think you understand what racial bias is. Racists at least most non KKK card carrying racists are not actively trying to hunt down black men.

It's that there threshold and tolerance to accept something like a random black man walking into a construction site warrants getting armed and chasing him down with a truck even though the video shows he didn't even take anything. I'm pretty confident if it was a random white dude who walked into that construction site and left without taking anything, they wouldn't give two *****.


You are attacking a strawman. No one things they were outright "****** hunting". It's just they are more easily triggered when a black man walks on a construction site.

 

Walking into a home under construction is not a crime. So they had a reasonable suspicion of what exactly?

“An individual believed to be Arbery was seen at a property under construction for less than 3 minutes – and did nothing illegal – before being ambushed a short while later, lawyers said in a statement Saturday night.

The surveillance video was "consistent with the evidence already known to us" that Arbery made a brief stop at the site while out for a run and "engaged in no illegal activity," they said.

"Ahmaud did not take anything from the construction site. He did not cause any damage to the property," the attorneys said. "He remained for a brief period of time and was not instructed by anyone to leave but rather left on his own accord to continue his jog. Ahmaud’s actions at this empty home under construction were in no way a felony under Georgia law."”

so u fool, please tell me what felony could’ve occurred...walking into a home under construction and looking around is not a crime

and yes, a person out jogging and then going into a house under construction and looking around isn’t outlandish...there are people in this very thread who say they have done this

no burglary tools, mask, weapon, or vehicle while wearing a white shirt in broad daylight

What sounds more reasonable? He looked around a home under construction while jogging, or he was a burglar who planned to steal whatever was in there and run down the street in broad daylight?

 

Would your opinion change if you knew that this construction site had been burglarized before? What if the burglary had been done by someone who matches Arbery's description? What if it occurred recently? His behavior suggests to me that either he had been there before, or one of his friends had been there before. Why else would he enter the house? Why would he jog directly to the house in the first place? Very abnormal behavior unless he'd been there before.

 

No one is claiming that these men just all of a sudden loaded their truck with firearms to hunt black people. There is zero nuance with your rhetoric here. It's either they were out hunting black people or they are local heroes.

No it simply is just another example of racists being easily triggered over seeing a black man do something as benign as walking into a construction site and walking out without taking anything to the point it warranted them to hop on a truck armed and track the dude down.

My friends and I grew up in New Territory in Sugar Land when New Territory was still having entire subdivisions in construction. We routinely walked in and out of construction sites.

 

No not really. Also, two burglaries in a town over a span of a year doesn't warrent hunting down a man because he waling in and out of a construction site.

There is zero evidence that man ever burglarized a construction area. We only have a video of him waling around. They had no grounds to attempt to detain him with firearms.

 

Yeah plus it is not uncommon for old people to be on top of such details and know their neighbors/neighborhood.

 

Nuance is why i have said we need more details. I do think you are far too generous to a dude who was clearly casing a site. They didnt shoot him for wandering the site... they shot him because he attacked... and they may very well prove their reason. Just wait.

 

He attacked because three men armed were blocking him with a truck. Why do you always leave that out when you say he "attacked" them. Yes, he did AFTER he was surrounded by three men with firearms who weren't in any uniform.

In my mind I would be much more scared if three men not in police uniform surrounded me with firearms than police in uniform were doing the same thing because in the former situation I have no ****ing clue what those people's intentions were.