25 year old man murdered in Georgia for jogging while black

And what is your point? Because my perception of your point is you are essentially angry that not enough posters are typing "black culture bad".

 

I'm talking about black on black crime. Simple ass numbers

Black people acting like things like the jjoghing incident happens all the time

If your problem is black men being murdered should I not talk about how they are likely to be murdered?

 

@fchowd0311

What's really hilarious is your ASSumption that I don't agree with the OBVIOUS notion black on black violence is a problem in poverty

The problem is the black middle class only want to discuss these incidents

Again point me to the last thread on black on black violence

 

And what is the point of that when the discussion in this thread is about raical bias?

"Black on Black crime" stems from an entirely different problem which means it has its own different set of solutions. If you want to discuss the solutions to the problem of black on black crime, by all means create a new thread in good faith we can actually discuss solutions. And there have been plenty of discussions in the past many of which you weren't involved in that discussed solutions to large scale poverty and the events that led to the modern predicament of poor black urban ghettos.

 

I can imply it by your rhetoric. You only declare the problem but when there are countless threads about the solutions, you rarely are involved. It seems like you just want to declare the problem which seems like you just want to vent about black people not being responsible for themselves. It seems to be the general tone of most of your rhetoric surrounding this issue.

 

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I responded to the Jason Whitlock stuff. I didn't bring it up

 

Where are those countless threads?

 

Any thread that discusses improving healthcare, public education and income inequality. There are also plenty of threads that discuss Black poverty. Understanding the problem right? Seems to be your message here. Well understanding how the problem happened is a large part of how to understand the problem and generate a solution for that problem.

 

Do Hispanics deal with income inequality? Do they have the inner violence issues?

 

Yes and yes.

 

Show me the murder numbers. TIA

 

@fchowd0311

Hispanics and blacks are not the same obviously. We have different histories in this country. That being said people ASSume that blacks and Hispanics have the same problems like crime.

One day Hispanics are going to tell blacks to stop trying to link them to our bullshit. They don't have Hispanic Lives Matter

 

Well they should

Maybe this country wouldn't find it an afterthought to separate children from their parents en masse and just shrug it off.

 

Hispanics are the new scapegoats. No doubt On culture a lot of the 1st/2nd3rd generation focus on the positives of the country

As bad a president gen washe was right to try to get Republicans to try to cater them. They fit in terms of values and they reproduce

 

Well, this was certainly a strange 2 pages to read

 

Happens more to black people than other races.

This is your perception, not facts, you're sitting here as I understand a black person talking about it, you're just mad because not everyone agrees with your opinion.

Exactly, so why compare the two groups?

Most violent crime is intraracial, in fact, it's not even close. If you are white you're most likely to get killed by a white person, black by black, etc etc.

A lot of your talking points just don't align with stats and are pretty tired old talking points that keep getting thrown around uselessly whenever a black person is killed for doing ordinary things. I would get into it a lot more but I found an article that summarizes the stats better than I could...
https://www.colorlines.com/articles/3-stats-department-justice-disprove-racist-talking-points-crime

Basically what I said above, if you're black it's more likely that you'll get killed by a white person than vice versa. Just the facts.

As for your culture point, it's such a lame point, because we're sitting here acting like all black people have one unifying culture, this point also fails when you consider that American culture in general is violent. Kids play games where they do nothing but shoot at other people, that's a good chunk of games that white people play, rap's biggest audience? White people. Movies are filled with violence. We glorify serial killers in these movies too and if it's not violence then its sex. I'm not complaining, just saying, it's funny when people point at 'black culture' for being violent and then ignore the movies we put out every year or the games we put out every year. I don't think either of these things have a major effect on anyone, pretty sure studies back me on that, and if they did why wouldn't they affect white people the same way?

So the culture argument really fails when you consider that most americans consume the same kind of media, live in the same culture, as hispanics, blacks, asian-americans, etc. Usually, the culture argument fails for this reason because if you were to bring this same argument to Alt-Right people they'd just easily turn it against you and say "Well, I know white people that listen to rap and they don't join gangs, it must be a genetic thing then." this is the main reason it fails, it's basically a trap for racists to say "Must be the genetics." and of course I'm not saying that you are a racist or anything I'm just poking the holes in this argument. Culture is a vague thing anyways that can't be quantified.

Meanwhile, we have a lot of data throughout human history that shows the effects of poverty. There is also a legacy of crime in certain areas where kids fathers are in gangs, their brothers, cousins, etc etc so it means they are more likely to just do what they see everyone doing. We've also seen areas get better and crime decrease.

It's gang culture, which exists and has always existed in big cities that lead poor children to desperation to do what they feel they need to do to make the most of their life. Desperation makes people do dangerous things and when you are a poor kid and you believe the only way to get out of your situation is to sell drugs then that's what you do.

You're going on about comparing Hispanics and Blacks but you're ignoring one thing. Immigrants always do better in this country, no matter where they come from, because to be an immigrant means you've either been through the fire and you're willing to work your ass off or your family has the money to immigrate. Black people were forced to immigrate to this country and then never got rewarded for their labor like regular immigrants do so they passed nothing on to their kids (like normal immigrants do) and then their kids passed nothing on to their kids and this has been the cycle for, well, a relatively short period of time when you think about it.

With all that said, you know black-on-black crime has 0 to do with this topic.

 

Didn't look like athletic shorts but I can't say that for sure. The video quality was ****.

 

The problem with black culture is hanging on to anger from the past. When something like this happens we extrapolate it. It must be noted but it has to be put in perspective.

Overall the world spins forward and we have to think forwardly . For the most part we do but not when it comes to the poor

The government can only fix so much. Some of the internal issues have to be fixed internally. Doesn't matter whose fault the problem is

 

For people who only read the last few pages I'm only referring to Jason Whitlock. There is no justification for this shooting but we shouldn't extrapolate this into a daily issue.

 

These loose fitting shorts don't look like athletic shorts? What are they...Dockers?