I am going to make a major leap here . . . . . . Of all the 'identities' in the Left . .. .your identity is not one of them When someone says 'Identity politics" it is usually White Male Heterosexual Is that your demographic? I don't say that to put ya down or anything but that that demographic feels "Attacked" whenever anything is not complete 'about them' or "leaves them out" Also . . . You cannot complain about Identity Politics in a Capitalistic country. The country is built on COMPETITION . . .we make everything about people competing for resources We are not really about cooperation in the most major sense Self Interest (one would hope enlightened self interest) is always at the center of the American mentality It is who we are Groups fighting each other and and the idea that it will end in something of a equal society not really worked out that way but . . .. Rocket River
See . . .THAT is the problem This is like saying . . .. stealing a loaf of bread to feed your kids is the same as The Banking Crisis so you are ok with Loaf stealers getting 10 yrs in Jail . .. while the Bankers got bonuses and no jail time . . . .. It's like saying a guy selling to mar1juana joints is the same as Big Pharma with the Oxy Epidemic So . . it is ok for the Joint seller to goto prison for 40 years. . .while Big Pharma makes record profits You have to be more nuanced and drill down a bit more than that. Rocket River The Knife 6 inches deep in your back . .. *IS* better than having it 9 inches in your back YES . .. WE ALL WANT THE KNIFE OUT OF OUR BACK
Its simply a way to excuse the current president and administration... like when trump excused white nationals by saying "both sides..."
There are basically 2 teams to choose from. The third team is filled with even greater weirdos than the first two. Using god, abortion, not separating state from church to appease the South... it doesn't get more identity politics than that. I've said since I accidentally found the D&D, if the gop wants to run things like Vader that's fine. You can at least respect that. But too many like to hide behind the bible, use it as a shield. Bad things should happen to bad people, no matter which side.
No this is just a pure excuse to make your party seem more self righteous then the other party. These examples are terrible Plain and simple. Your still playing team politics and patting yourself on the back for it. The lefts corruption doesn’t end with Obama, bill Clinton is by far one of the most corrupt presidents ever to be in the White House As a whole the lefts corruption is no different then the rights and at times working hand and hand [clinton and bush]. Obama can be called out for just as much corruption that is not even close to being comparable to a pettty example of “stealing a loaf of bread” did we forget Obama used more drone strikes then any other president killing thousands upon thousands of innocent lives, forget about fast n furious, or meddling with Israel’s election? [there is proof this did infact happen] but then criticize Russia, which they should be but kind of hypocritical when you do the same thing on a lower level. http://thefederalist.com/2018/05/29/obama-says-didnt-scandals/ And when did I become the “trump defender” all of a sudden. Yes I’ve alreasy stated trump is possibly the most corrupt president but my point is it’s not far off from the left has been doing [not stealing bread sorry]. Also let the investigation prove trump was in bed with Russia first, all signs point to it for sure but I’m not gonna just assume because Hillary also has connections as well. I’m all for impeaching if that’s the case or if he fires the investigator to save face. You guys are exposing yourselves already as the official left marching band and are so stuck in your politics you want even fathom or admit the left is the same as the right in every way. All logic and sense has gone out the door And even though I’ve admitted trump is corrupt you people are still rampaging because your party is just as terrible and won’t admit because you have not taken down the enemy yet when your party is the enemy as well
Really long to read, kind of seems your arguing with yourself. Screw the left and right desupport career politicians who have taken over and get rid of tribalism, stop putting an idea as a left or right and start free thinking. Your trying really hard to convince me the right is corrupt I already know but so is the left. I should be able to like something on the left and right and have logical policies that people can agree on The problem is people just want their team to win, they don’t want to think that something on the other side could be a good idea and etc etc.
The Green Party doesn’t support anything you mentioned and are typically more left leaning. If I’m Democratic that something I would support. Appears you don’t like it because it may be taking votes away from the left Personally I support libertarian, it doesn’t spot on get all my views and I don’t like everyone who runs but it has ideas from both sides. Personally i wish candidates would drop all affiliation and just say “this is what I support on these things” and it would give us more diverse options instead of lumping me in a group where I don’t even support half of the policies and ideologies
On of the inherent problems is using emotion over logic when it comes to politics. For example, if you want 'free' healthcare because people shouldn't suffer and die (emotion), then come up with a solution that will actually work in the long run. Ideology is as cheap as the prize found in a crackerjack box. Another issue is the inability to separate the individual people from the actual politicians in power. The " xx politician is corrupt, so anyone who voted for him are despicable". or the reverse, " bigoted people voted for that politician, so that politician must be bigoted". A third problem is turning every issue into a binary solution. How did we ever get to the point where abortion is a binary issue between pro choice and pro life? A forth problem is generalizing/stereotyping a team. 'Conservatives are just extremist religious people. Or Rich white old men. Or Racist Or Stupid'. 'Democrats are non whites. Or bleeding heart. Or poor. Or Educated' The most obtuse people are the ones who staunchly defend their team and view the other team as deplorables. Lets be honest here. The DNC and RNC do not give a **** about anyone or anything other than staying in power. Why would anyone support or defend these two parties?
I agree, for the most part. It can get more sophisticated in some areas you mentioned but in general spot on.
LOL I never "ranted against immigrants", I pointed out that they are causing a problem in the nordic states and that they have led to a rise in crime specifically when it comes to rape (and other sex crimes, Robbery, and assault.....that's not "ranting' against anyone, just pointing out the facts as they are in a very specific situation. Try to keep up guy.
Bobbie: Hell, things are already starting to change now that they've taken on a decent number of immigrants and refugees.....not to mention that they are starting to have an illegal immigration problem so they no longer have a homogeneous and wealthy population anymore, as such crime is starting to rise particularly when it comes to rape (and other sex crimes), assault, and robbery which is forcing them to pay more than ever before when it comes to policing their citizens and jailing criminals.... Wierd,I guess he feels all he has to do is not call it a rant. Maybe because Trump does this type of thing?
Yeah, that's what I said, now point out what about that statement of fact when it comes to what is happening in Sweeden is racist or xenophobic. Are you really so simple minded that you assume the statement is racist because it reminds you of a different thing Trump said about a different situation? I'm trying to work with you here guy but you have to put forth some effort. Facts aren't racist, even if they don't make certain people look very good.
Anyone who doesn't believe that immigrants are wreaking havoc all over the EU is living in denial. There is overwhelming proof that EU immigrants are costing billions, causing major disturbances and rises in crime. The problem is, if you don't want to welcome them all and let the flood gates open, you're immediately labeled a racist and anti-immigration. It is ridiculous, there is a middle ground where you can allow immigration in a manner that is safe, secure, and good for both immigrants, and the country. Right now, the flood gates in the EU are terrible, because immigrants are coming by the millions, and there is no infrastructure or jobs to sustain them. They live off of the state, and that will perpetuate for generations if you don't stem the tide. They are coming faster than they can be assimilated into the society. When you allow immigrants in and don't have a plan for them long term, you are doing a disservice to them and their families, and the country and community. There is a reason during "The Great MIgration" that the US set up immigration centers all along the east coast... because there is a proper way to allow immigrants in.
Well yeah, I just brought up the fact that the welfare state that they have going in some of the Nordic regions are starting to struggle due to no longer being a homogeneous population of wealthy people who are pretty averse to crime. I'm not anti-immigrant, I'm just pointing out how it kind of wrecked the Nordic model by increasing costs in areas that they were able to cut corners on in the past. I'm not saying immigration is a bad thing necessarily, I was pointing out why a welfare state like they have in Nordic countries wouldn't work in America. They got a small taste of some of the complications Americans face and they are struggling.
Preview of the coming Culture War. I guess because I hate myself I decided to listed to a little hate radio earlier and found out they are previewing the upcoming identity politics mechanism to weaponize in the US. FACEMASKS. According to this leach of a hate monger I heard, its a good thing that Liberals are wearing facemasks "so it is easier to identify them" in public. Yep... now Facemasks are basically a Bernie bumper sticker in the eyes of Trumpers, or will be coming to your neighborhood soon. I'm not sure that folks like Rush, and Mark Levin and the other hate mongers can make this campaign as successful as they are obviously wanting it to be, but the cat is out of the bag that this is where they are going in the next week or so.
