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[Official] Joe 2020

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by justtxyank, Apr 25, 2019.

  1. Deckard

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    While it’s possible that the shockingly destructive freight train running over our country that is trump might have very well spurred Al into running, we’ll never know. He was railroaded out of the Senate by members of my own party, in my opinion. A huge over reaction to what I saw as an impulsive joke by the comedic side of the man, nothing more.

    He shouldn’t have resigned. Al should have stuck it out and let the noise subside. It would have, in my opinion. Look at the madman in the White House, a creature with a very long history of destructive behavior towards women. “Elected” to the nation’s highest office, despite documented proof of decades of misogynistic behavior, which is a polite way to describe it.
     
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    Sleepy Jo be sarcastic!

    cuz Libs R EVIL LIARS!!!
     
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    91 and sharper than any candidate.



    That brings up some memories. In the early 30s in Germany, the communist party, following the Stalinist line at the time, took the position that everybody but us is a social fascist so there's no difference between the social democrats and the Nazis. So therefore we're not going to join with the social democrats to stop the Nazi plague. We know where that led. And there are many other cases like that. And I think we're seeing a rerun of that. So let's take the position "Never Biden, I'm not going to vote for Biden". There is a thing called arithmetic. You can debate a lot of things but not arithmetic.

    Failure to vote for Biden in this election in a swing state amounts to voting for Trump. It takes one vote away from the opposition, the same as voting for Trump. So if you decide you want to vote for the destruction of organized human life on earth, for a sharp increase in the threat of nuclear war, for stuffing the judiciary with young lawyers who will make it impossible to do anything for a generation, then do it openly, say, "yeah that's what I want".

    So that's the meaning of "Never Biden".
     
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    Sadly yes. Al Franklin would have been the best choice.
     
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    Sleepy Joe has got the Mojo with the Oldfos ...


    Biden’s strength with older voters could threaten Trump’s electoral path in 2020

    Former vice president Joe Biden, whose support from older voters helped him lead the primaries, appears to be carrying over some of that appeal into the general election. With Trump’s approval ratings sagging over his handling of the coronavirus crisis, Biden’s campaign is attempting to capitalize with a group that has traditionally leaned Republican.

    In Florida, a Quinnipiac University poll released Wednesday showed Biden leading Trump by a 10-point margin, 52 to 42, among voters 65 and older — the latest poll showing Trump losing ground with seniors in key battlegrounds. In 2016, exit polls showed Trump winning seniors in Florida by 17 points over Hillary Clinton, a crucial margin in a state where older voters make up a large percentage of the voting population.

    While it’s unclear if Biden’s polling strength with older voters will carry over into November, the shifts are enough to reshape the dynamics of a close race that has already been upended by a viral pandemic that has killed more than 47,000 Americans.

    “We know that Americans over the age of 50 make up the majority of voters — and as a result, they’re a deciding factor in our elections,” Nancy LeaMond, AARP executive vice president and chief advocacy and engagement officer, said in an interview. “They aren’t a monolith as a voting bloc, but one thing is clear: They do plan to vote.”
     
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    GAME CHANGER.

    As much as I don't want to see it, Biden is going to have to step aside. The Democrats simply cannot run a successful campaign on "restoring decency to the White House" with a sexual assaulter at the top of the ticket. This isn't even speaking to Biden's other disqualifying problems, such as inappropriate touching of women and children, plagiarism, and bad policy (crime bill) and bad votes (Iraq War).
     
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    Not a chance. No one cares about a 3 decade old allegation. 12 women accused Trump of assault. He cheated on his wife with pornstars. Doesn’t matter...
     
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    WOW - Peter Daou, former Clinton/Kerry advisor weighs in

     
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    LOL...another Bernie person. I will not vote for Bernie. Sorry.
     
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    With Liberals how you handle an allegation is the most important aspect. Look at Trudeau. He handled the blackface thing with ownership and apologized sincerely then won an election.

    No apologies do no absolve someone of real sexual assault, rape, abuse, or especially child abuse or molestation. But a case like Al Frankens is forgiven typically if they are sincere and apologize and it didn’t happen recently when our culture changed.

    Biden’s accusation in this case if proven is probably forgivable and liberals will still consider him a decent man who might have used bad judgement as a young man, and the accuser has the right to speak freely about her story and Biden has the right to say how he remembers the situation, and apologize.

    Biden will also likely have a VP pick that most will be okay with taking the nomination if there’s real credible and much worse accusations that come. Voters are mostly voting for the Biden policy platform they know and trust more than Biden himself. They know and trust him in relation to his work with Obama more than they feel the connection to him personally. I don’t think Trump gains much if they find an accuser that is serious enough to get him to step down, and give the top of the ticket to his VP.

    Trump does play with fire though if he sends out an accuser that turns out to be planted and coached by the Trump campaign. That’ll backfire big time.
     
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    wait, is character an issue in the upcoming election? You better hope not.
     
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    You mean like what the Dems did with Christine Blasey Ford? That was the most obvious political plant of all time.

    Tara Reade's MOM called Larry King in 1993 to report this assault. Pretty hard to stage that 27 years ago. Very different circumstance than Kavanaugh... this one is credible with corroborating evidence and contemporaneous accounts. None of that existed with Kavs.
     
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    She calls Larry King instead of going to the Police? Calls to report Trouble with a Senator? Come on, now.
     
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    1993 was a very different era when it came to women feeling empowered to report sexual assault and harassment. Come on, you should know that by now. Also, since Biden had a supervisory role over Ms Reade, there were career implications.

    Furthermore, she has subsequently filed a police report.


    OWNED
     
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    This is a demographic I really had not considered.

    Older voters are more likely to be very embarrassed by Trump and really don't like how divided the country is.

    I work with a older white woman in a smaller Texas city who should be a strong Trump demographic and has said some things about democrats that can only be circulating on certain facebook feeds, we don't really talk politics but when Trumps name comes up she just shakes her head and she definitely does not like how angry everyone is.

    I could definitely see people like her either not voting or voting for Biden.

    This is starting to look like a landslide.
     
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