Vaccines

Buck Turgidson · Apr 13, 2020

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If you aren’t going to read it the you aren’t worth talking to. You are a true representation of ignorance.
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Oh I looked at your link *before* I called you a nutjob.

B-Bob · Apr 13, 2020

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This piece ties together two major stories facing the US. How the Russian disinformation campaign has been spreading anti-vax propaganda and undermining faith in American science. Ironically Putin has pushed vaccinations for Russians. Am posting highlights because it is long and behind a pay wall.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/13/...1bTsHi0ezCg405PJBRqX0zxqBnbmEShlMRtZRBUJhM1Wc

Putin’s Long War Against American Science
A decade of health disinformation promoted by President Vladimir Putin of Russia has sown wide confusion, hurt major institutions and encouraged the spread of deadly illnesses.

By William J. Broad

April 13, 2020Updated 8:17 a.m. ET

On Feb. 3, soon after the World Health Organization declared the coronavirus to be a global health emergency, an obscure Twitter account in Moscow began retweeting an American blog. It said the pathogen was a germ weapon designed to incapacitate and kill. The headline called the evidence “irrefutable” even though top scientists had already debunked that claim and declared the novel virus to be natural.

As the pandemic has swept the globe, it has been accompanied by a dangerous surge of false information — an “infodemic,” according to the World Health Organization. Analysts say that President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia has played a principal role in the spread of false information as part of his wider effort to discredit the West and destroy his enemies from within.

The House, the Senate and the nation’s intelligence agencies have typically focused on election meddling in their examinations of Mr. Putin’s long campaign. But the repercussions are wider. An investigation by The New York Times — involving scores of interviews as well as a review of scholarly papers, news reports, and Russian documents, tweets and TV shows — found that Mr. Putin has spread misinformation on issues of personal health for more than a decade.

His agents have repeatedly planted and spread the idea that viral epidemics — including flu outbreaks, Ebola and now the coronavirus — were sown by American scientists. The disinformers have also sought to undermine faith in the safety of vaccines, a triumph of public health that Mr. Putin himself promotes at home.
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“It’s all about seeding lack of trust in government institutions,” Peter Pomerantsev, author of “Nothing Is True and Everything Is Possible,” a 2014 book on Kremlin disinformation, said in an interview.
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The Kremlin’s audience for open disinformation is surprisingly large. The YouTube videos of RT, Russia’s global television network, average one million views per day, “the highest among news outlets,” according to a U.S. intelligence report. Since the founding of the Russian network in 2005, its videos have received more than four billion views, analysts recently concluded.
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The K.G.B. campaign — which cast the deadly virus that causes AIDS as a racial weapon developed by the American military to kill black citizens — was wildly successful. By 1987, fake news stories had run in 25 languages and 80 counties, undermining American diplomacy, especially in Africa. After the Cold War, in 1992, the Russians admitted that the alarms were fraudulent.

As Russia’s president and prime minister, Mr. Putin has embraced and expanded the playbook, linking any natural outbreak to American duplicity. Attacking the American health system, and faith in it, became a hallmark of his rule.
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The K.G.B. campaign — which cast the deadly virus that causes AIDS as a racial weapon developed by the American military to kill black citizens — was wildly successful. By 1987, fake news stories had run in 25 languages and 80 counties, undermining American diplomacy, especially in Africa. After the Cold War, in 1992, the Russians admitted that the alarms were fraudulent.
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amazing and important reporting there. Thanks for posting.

I’m simultaneously impressed and horrified by Putie’s understanding of our poor country.

pgabriel · Feb 19, 2025

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I think its more about having the first child later in life. Some might be surprised you came with this take given other views you have expressed on other subjects. I think that was the issue with Jenny McCarthy's son and she blamed vaccines.

This is the issue, the government or any health agencies really haven't really pushed this about women waiting later to have children and sometimes i wonder are they being sensitive towards women who bave autistic kids in this circumstance. I heard something about the age issue when McCarthy was in the news then never heard about it again
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I got criticized for this post but there is statistical evidence of this.

I had thought about posting about this in the RFK Jr threads. Don't know why I never googled it
https://drexel.edu/news/archive/2014/april/autism-risk-older-parents

Sweet Lou 4 2 · Feb 19, 2025

B-Bob said: ↑

amazing and important reporting there. Thanks for posting.

I’m simultaneously impressed and horrified by Putie’s understanding of our poor country.
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He'll go down in human history as the man who defeated a great super power without using military - purely on disinformation and manipulation. He's secured himself an incredible legacy. Only question now is when Americans will realize how badly they got played.

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