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COVID-19 (coronavirus disease)/SARS-CoV-2 virus

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout' started by tinman, Jan 22, 2020.

  1. dobro1229

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    She seemed to indicate that she believes as a nurse it isn't the test in her case and she still is showing symptoms although feeling better. Either way it is bad news. Either the tests are sh$t, or this virus can stay contagious infected everyone around you for a flippin month. That's one hell of a resourceful virus.
     
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  2. daywalker02

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    We know from the Asian countries that there are at least 2 strains, maybe more, people could have contracted more than one......agreed the possibilities are scary and nearly limitless.
     
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  3. No Worries

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    Monospace font indicates sarcasm or that I am not being serious ... like in ... I am not suggesting that anyone that is bored should go see a hooker.

    Although word on the street is that hookers know how to find blow.
     
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  4. rimbaud

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    Just don’t give yourself a false sense of security. They are made to be immediately disposable. They break down fast. You don’t know how long they were sitting in a box in a hot warehouse, how long they were on a shelf, etc. I have seen the same brand and same thickness have drastically different strength and working properties. And, again, at their best they are not made to last a coupIe of hours. For covid I think all they really could do of benefit is remind you that things aren’t normal and not to touch your face. But they do nothing to limit the spread in public (the way the public are wearing and using them) and are not better than washing skin for your own protection.
     
  5. malakas

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    There are some people in Wuhan who are in isolation in the hospital for 60 days.
    They have been testing positive in oral swabs all the time.
    Negative in all other swabs but positive in oral.

    With PCR tests. Which have 99% sensitivity.
    But we don't know if the positive is due to live or dead virus.

    If it was one case, it could be a mistake. Or a freak case.
    But how many freak cases are there?
    There are such freak cases in other microbes- bacteria and viruses.
    But it hasn't been understood well and we don't know how much prevalent it is.

    They should make a study to see if these still positive cases are still infectious.
     
  6. malakas

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    Vaccines historically take about 10 years on average.
    The fastest was 5 years.
    They also have only 6% chance of success.

    HOWEVER never in the history of medicine and humankind were there so much resources and vaccine trials about one pathogenic.
    Usually the best pharma labs don't do vaccinnes- they aren't very profitable.
    They are left to non profit organisations or university labs.

    Vaccines have been developed "half - hearted" as a "charity". Not like now.

    If you see the vaccines in development only a few are the "traditional" old fashioned ones.
    Most of them are next generation technologies that can blow your mind out. They are using new technologies used in oncology.

    Not only we will be able to find A vaccine but probably like 4-5 different vaccines. If not more.

    If they throw the bioethics out, it's possible to get a working one by the end of the year.


    The bright side is this. With these new "incentive" to apply the cutting edge biotechnology into vaccine development, not only we will be able to get a vaccine for this virus but also about other viruses.
    Like war - leads to a development of technology out of need, this pandemic will lead to a golden age of bioresearch and immunology.
     
  7. saitou

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    1 dude with mild symptoms had it for 49 days and appeared to have formed a “dynamic balance” with the coronavirus. Who knows how long it could have continued if they didn't intervene with plasma transfusion. He had a high Covid-19 viral load and, at the same time, his immune cell indicators had remained stable.

    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soc..._campaign=contentexchange&utm_content=3077747
     
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  8. daywalker02

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    What is dangerous yet interesting with this particular type of Coronavirus is that it is really up to the body and health condition of each and everyone.

    Of course those who have severe underlying conditions are at huge risk but the healthy ones?

    Even they can die or not having no symptoms at all while still being able to pass it on.

    Strange cases can occur.

    The article suggested for those who have this symbiotic relationship not to have secks and other contacts.
     
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    It's learned how to just barely keep its host alive... sustainable virulence.
     
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  10. daywalker02

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    Friend of Donald J's.

     
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    Pretty jacked considering the virus is slowly changing the dna (into rna transcription) of its infected cells.

    But yeah, something new to add onto the pile.
     
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  12. Nook

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    There are three different traceable strains. They are similar enough that a vaccine would likely work on all three.

    The problem is that for all we know, it could mutate tomorrow into something more deadly or less deadly.

    It is even possible it could mutate to the extent it doesn't work for vaccines being developed.
     
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    My gf is about 3 weeks since her positive test and just lost her sense of taste and smell a couple days ago and is having fatigue return. Luckily the symptoms are minor.
     
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    I think it's inevitable we will have to develop other vaccines if this disease hangs around. I'll repeat again viruses have evolution on their side.
     
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    My employee has had it for about 3 weeks now, still some symptoms (including loss of sense of smell and taste).
     
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    Speculation from biotech experts at Morgan Stanley believe that a vaccine will be forthcoming for health care workers by Sept / Oct of this year and to the general public by March of 2021.

    I think you are correct. With the deployment of so many resources, scientists are bound to find a number of effective vaccines. Also, steps like scrubbing the data from trials, will be done in weeks instead of months.
     
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  17. Carl Herrera

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    Side effect of working from home. When I see the video below, my first thought was "Bernie needs better lighting, and maybe a better webcam."

     
  18. malakas

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    This isnt' something new or unique.

    Also most everything this virus does aren't unique. Like attacking other organs and systems than the ones it is supposed to.
    Like heart attacks, pericarditis , meningitis, nephritis etc etc

    It happens with most viruses. But they are rare events.
    Now that like millions if not hundred of millions of people are infected these "rare" events inevitably seem to our eyes, to happen much to often.

    The one thing that would be more unique for the virus is antibody dependent enhancement like the dengue virus.

    That would mean that once you had immunity for one strain, if you got infected by another strain not only you would get sick but even sicker than the first time, gravely ill and possibly die.
    It would be a huge obstacle in the development of a vaccine.

    But in the first studies it seems we have been spared.
    =) They did experiment in vitro.

    This virus is still normal. Compared to freak viruses out there.
     
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  19. malakas

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    The biggest delay is when you have to wait for the participants of the trial to get infected naturally when they encounter the virus in their daily life.
    If these volunteers are willing to risk their lives out of the bat and get exposed to the virus then that saves most of the time needed.
    That would be against bioethics and the vaccine protocol.
    Desperate times call for desperate measures.

    If this happens then the vaccine should be ready in a few months.
    Of course some will fail but already like 5 are in phase 2. With 10 more coming.
     
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    OK, I think we can say say we have peaked nationally, though we are still high and only slowly descending the curve. Still, two things really worry me: states that are stupidly governed and the second wave. Because of the former, the latter may arrive faster than we expect. (Many other things abut this are also worrisome.)

    At this point, the incompetent and deadly federal response is baked in until at least January 20, 2021 so it really is up to the states. By the way, I'm still waiting on my Google app that will lead me to the local Wal-Mart parking lot where I can get testing. Oh wait, Wal-Mart came through at least. I just have to drive to the store in Bentonville, Arkansas.

    If anyone but multiple public health experts says you can go have fun spending money again, don't believe them. If anyone but multiple public health experts says you can go back to work, ask yourself if the person urging you back to work would do your job before a vaccine is found. Be smart. If things relax a little this summer, take advantage when it is prudent to do so, but don't lose your wariness. Stay distant, wash hands, sanitize surfaces. The virus will still be out there. Be prepared to hunker back down this fall, winter, spring.
     
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