Chinese incompetency has completed ruined the year of sports, and possibly humanity

From 2018-Not an op/Ed https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...n-charge-of-pandemic-response-exits-abruptly/

 

And Trumpers incompetency has caused the deaths of many Americans by putting in an incompetent ******* into the highest office.

DD

 

Trump did disband it and he's on tape talking about it.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...eo-trump-pandemic-team-cut-2018-a9405191.html

 

Mission impossible, trying to use facts on trump supporters

 

Clearly it is to you, and clearly it is not to CDC or to WHO. Let me see who I should listen to ? Ah, the non-expert who didn't even get basic math correct.

 

I'm interested in how this can end and what can be done in the future to reduce the risk and to manage it when it happen again, because it will happen again. Just blaming doesn't get you anywhere. What is your solution (rhetorical question)?

A few ex:
1- China suppressed the initial information, especially their local government. They may have lost a month time because of their censorship. If they had caught this just a few weeks earlier, it might have been contained right there. It's why we cannot trust any state, especially a state such as China that censors and hide. Looking forward, we need to make it acceptable to the whole world that everyone has direct and instant access to sign of potential outbreak as soon as it happen. If you want to be part of global trade, you must open up global access to viral and other potential outbreak. Non-negotiable.

2- As with #1, you must reform and clean up your mess. A market or farm or any industry that increase the risk of virus jumping to human or between animals and then to human should be regulated heavily worldwide. If you don't you aren't allowed to be part of global trade.

With the market tanking like a rock and the economy as well, i think businesses will sign up to this. They cannot and will not risk another collapse like this. This will happen again and we will need to be much more prepare to contain or manage it globally.

 

100% agree which is why the world cannot left China off the hook this time. They've gotten anyway with far too much in recent years.

 

A business deal between Trump Enterprises and Chinese Corps obviously just took place. Trump had some kind supportive words to the CCP earlier in his speech today. But this does nothing in finding the truth such as multiple strains and etc.

 

It’s not just China. Heck, if an outbreak started here a few months ago with potential to become a pandemic, can I said that this admin would be very open about it? No. Would we be prepared? Absolutely not. And how were we caught so unprepared? It’s already too late now but what are we going to do about it? It’s not if, but when the next one will come. If all we take out of this is centric to China, we will fail again.


This is an article from 2018. People have been saying for years the next big one is coming.... and after this is over, it’s will happen again.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2018/07/when-the-next-plague-hits/561734/

On average, in one corner of the world or another, a new infectious disease has emerged every year for the past 30 years: mers, Nipah, Hendra, and many more. Researchers estimate that birds and mammals harbor anywhere from 631,000 to 827,000 unknown viruses that could potentially leap into humans. Valiant efforts are under way to identify them all, and scan for them in places like poultry farms and bushmeat markets, where animals and people are most likely to encounter each other. Still, we likely won’t ever be able to predict which will spill over next; even long-known viruses like Zika, which was discovered in 1947, can suddenly develop into unforeseen epidemics.

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“A lot of people said that we dodged a bullet in 2009, but nature just shot us with a BB gun,” says Richard Hatchett, the CEO of the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations. Tom Inglesby, a biosecurity expert at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health, told me that if a 1918-style pandemic hit, his hospital “would need in the realm of seven times as many critical-care beds and four times as many ventilators as we have on hand.”

That the U.S. could be so ill-prepared for flu, of all things, should be deeply concerning. The country has a dedicated surveillance web, antiviral drugs, and an infrastructure for making and deploying flu vaccines. None of that exists for the majority of other emerging infectious diseases.

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The U.S. is not unfamiliar with the concept of preparedness. It currently spends roughly half a trillion dollars on its military—the highest defense budget in the world, equal to the combined budgets of the next seven top countries. But against viruses—more likely to kill millions than any rogue state is—such consistent investments are nowhere to be found.

 

This real goal of the "Chinese virus" lingo:

 

First of all, they should have banned wildlife market in the first place. That’s where the coronavirus originated. There’s absolutely no reason for them to exist.

Secondly, they should be more transparent and honest about the situation. The first case appeared in early December and they only informed WHO in 31 Dec. They arrested and reprimanded nurses and doctors who tried to warned people of the danger but they insisted the situation was “under control”. Even a week before the Wuhan lockdown they were still lying to people that the situation was under control. By the time they lockdown Wuhan, it has already spread to other provinces.

Thirdly, almost all of the early cases can traced back to the wildlife market in Wuhan. But they waited for a week after they found out to shut down the market and did not warn the people of its danger. Sourh Korea, on the other hand, as soon as they found out Shincheonji was the source of the outbreak, shut down the entire area and they were 100% transparent about their situation and you can see a decline in new cases.

 

The wet market should be shut down or much better regulated, I am pretty sure it will happen.

Look at Europe and US, all had plenty of time and warning, what did they do? Nothing basically. Did they shut down anything? Nope, did they prepare well? Did they tell people to keep distance from each other? Nope. So you are saying China should be doing what the rest of the world could not do right?

Once they realized how bad the problem is, they really went to work, which is more can be said for many countries even today.

 

Wildlife markets should have been banned - or rather they should have enforced existing laws at the very least.

I am curious though, how does a nation go about identifying a new virus? By the time people started getting sick and showing up at the hospital, a highly contagious virus might have already spread enough to beyond containment. They would still have to suspect it wasn't a normal flu, find the virus and identify it, and then realize how contagious and deadly it is.

The could have bought the world more time for sure though. And going after health professionals was just asinine. But when China notified WHO and the world, there was still time to contain the virus.

The proof of this is S Korea which seems to have contained it, as well as Japan. While Europe and the US has failed.

 

This WNBA

This WNBA ******* has some nerve

 

I am not sure why you’re so sure that the wildlife market will be better regulated. After the SARS outbreak, the Chinese government did not admit their mistake and did nothing to regulate the wildlife trade. And here we are again in the midst of another crisis and they try to blame the U.S. for creating the virus in the lab.

Just because the U.S. and Europe could have done better job doesn’t justify China’s behaviours. At least other countries didn’t detain health professionals who warned people about the danger. They didn’t censor people’s text messages and ban sensitive words like “coronavirus”. They didn’t lied to people that the virus is under control and tell people go back to business as usual when it has clearly gotten out of hand. What China did was deplorable!

 

Full disclosure, I didn’t vote for Trump and I think that the pandemic could’ve been handled better, but more than ever now I’m seeing how divided America’s becoming and I really don’t think this is a good time for it. It’s not just conservatives either, I see plenty of people like myself that identify as liberal who are being irresponsible and acting selfishly in the wake of the virus (hell, look at those dumbass kids on spring break).

Instead of everybody pointing fingers and accusing everyone else of doing something wrong, what we SHOULD do (even those of us overseas) is adhere to quarantine rules and do what’s recommended of us.

Reddit obviously isn’t a particularly good source of information, but what’s this **** I keep seeing on there of people saying that they wished our government was more like China’s?? I think that lots of Chinese people are awesome, and I respect the culture (which is why you see me speaking about and defending it so often) but no way should we EVER envy or emulate China’s government. Instead, we should look at Hong Kong and South Korea or Japan to see how to deal with the virus effectively.

New York’s been hit hard, And I’m just really frustrated that so many people I love STILL don’t take it seriously enough. I don’t think it’s an American problem so much as it is a bunch of people spoiled into always getting their way still wanting to do things “their way” when everybody needs to sacrifice a bit so we can all be safe.

Makes me mad enough to hunt bats
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