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Chinese incompetency has completed ruined the year of sports, and possibly humanity

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Senator, Mar 12, 2020.

  1. ashleyem

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    And if China had not deliberately cover up information and did something to contain it when it first broke out in Wuhan, the world would not have been in such turmoil.
     
  2. ashleyem

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    SARS was another example of China’s censorship. The outbreak started in Guangdong in 2002 but the government did not admit it and cover up the information until the virus got to Hong Kong in 2003 and spread it to other parts of the world.
     
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    The stupidity of this post is astounding. China has started 4 global pandemics in the last 20 years --- 4! Of course they are going to be better prepared , like Houston is better prepared for hurricanes than Toronto.

    Singapore has a system of constant surveillance whcih monitors every citizens movement and the entire country has a population equal to Houston - of course they can accurately snuff out and monitor the disease especially when they are used to the Chinese bringing it into the country.

    China, factually, silenced the doctors who spoke out about it initially as it tarnished their great reputation and one of these, made to seem like a whistleblower, died while treating patients earlier this year.

    They finally started builidng hospitals when they had to, but the damage had been done and 5 million people had been in and out of Wuhan during a red flag time. It is criminal to pat them on the back for this after the spread had occurred.

    Blaming Trump because a place like Toronto or Los Angeles doesn't have a direct hurricane response program , or Houston doesn't have a wildfire response program is clearly a result of low intelligence. If America starts manufacturing more medical equipment domestically that would be great but they really shouldn't be expected to deal with the constant string of viruses Chinese cultural incompetence keeps producing. Even so, they are certainly taking the measures now with no financial assistance from China (who really should be sending billions in aid to all affected countries, but as we know they would never).

    Everything COULD be better in ideal situations, but America and the rest of the first world is by far better than any third world country when it comes to actual prevention, sanitation and hygiene as they should be.
     
  4. Amiga

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    Really, 4 pandemic in the last 20 years? What were they?
     
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  7. T_Man

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    Sorry but this is the senator you're talking tooo

    [​IMG]

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  8. cml750

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    Trump did not "disband" the pandemic team.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...-didnt-dissolve-its-pandemic-response-office/
     
  9. Major

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    What would you propose would have contained it on day 1? Every other country in the world had a month's advance notice of the possibility of it coming to their countries, testing kits already developed, plenty of information about the specifics of the virus and its symptoms/mortality/etc. And not a single one was able to do anything more to contain it once there were a handful of cases. What makes you think China could have done better with far less information?
     
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  11. T_Man

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    Yes he did...

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/5064881002


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  12. Amiga

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    1957 is not 20 years ago. The only pandemic in the last 20 years is this Covid-19 pandemic and the 2009 flu pandemic, which most likely originated in Mexico. Before that was the 1968 flu pandemic (originated in HK), the 1957 flu Pandemic (china), the 1918 flu pandemic (unclear origin - could be France or US). You can add HIV to that list. 2003 SARs outbreak was contained and did not become a pandemic.

    Anyhow, the point remains... virus jump from animal to human from time to time. Then sometimes it mutual and allow human to human transmission. There isn't a current way to completely prevent this.

    As I said before, in addition to pushing countries to reduce the chances of animal to human transmission, we should have strong global access and monitoring. Virus knows no border and thus the world should be able to globally monitor virus outbreak anywhere in the world at all times. We should not be solely dependent on any country, especially those that tend to hind info, to report it on their own. We did have something in place after Ebola that expired under this admin - we need something much better. Even if Covid19 is contained within the next month or two, the economic impact of Covid19 is so severe that I think we are going to result in real changes and one of the changes should be this. Each countries will also need to learn their lesson from this and beef up their capability to handle the next pandemic - it's going to happen again.

    Really, your incessant focus on china is too narrow and too limited. The next severe pandemic could originate from anywhere at any time.
     
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    Who was the President?

    T_Man
     
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    You keep arguing semantics (outbreak vs pandemic) instead of focusing on China and CCPs negligence, corruption, conspiracy, etc... which has ruined everyone's lives on this planet.

    Why?
     
  16. dachuda86

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    Did Bolton play a role? Just curious. No? Yes? I can't remember if he did. Maybe you can help.

    Hey guess what... there is a whole thread for your bullshit about Trump.
     
  17. dachuda86

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    Yeah their argument is 100% is unproductive. The word choices were bad. Who gives af.
     
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  18. T_Man

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    Well put your big girl panties on and get ready for more...

    Feel free to support this dumb ass president all you want... But stop spitting lies and trying to convince us it's the truth...

    Between you, senator, Trader_J and bigtexx you guys are spreading Trump bs, when there is so much proof that he's lying...

    So did you get all of that BS...

    T_Man
     
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  19. daywalker02

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    This is a testament to why he has been elected in the first place, voters are disappointments.
     
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    When I first saw this thread - and who the OP was - I totally dismissed it. But after reading the story of Dr Li Wenliang I realize that the worldwide economic collapse and 10,000s of lives are on Chinese hands. The historical record will bear this out.

    China took a 1950s Soviet Union approach to solving a would-be pandemic in a 2020 world. Damn.

    And then world leaders - who should've quarantined China and suspended international flights (at a minimum) on January 20th, kicked the can until late February, multiplying the time we are going to spend dealing with this.

    And you still have mouth-breathers all over social media saying it's an illuminati conspiracy and the government is using too much force.

    We humans have outgrown our ability to cope with the scale of society.

    Also, I identify with some libertarian principles and have voted for libertarian candidates recently over the two major parties in state and national elections, but after seeing the response of most self-identified libertarians to this current crisis, I'd burn my card if I had one.
     

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