I think Biden is willing to a move somewhat towards Bernie's positions, but Bernie needs to compromise himself. He keeps talking about a "movement," a "revolution," but he hasn't gotten the turnout in some of these primaries, like in Michigan, that he got in 2016. There are times I think he lets those younger Americans down, does them a disservice, by promising more than he can reasonably deliver, even if through some miracle he got the nomination and won. Bernie, in my opinion, over promises what he can do, and then gets his back up when he loses, and becomes unwilling to compromise himself. That's my opinion, and I'm certain there are those here who will disagree. I would like to point out that I was once one of those "younger Americans" myself, a hippie back in the mid-late '60's who protested the war in Vietnam. The world simply doesn't change as quickly as we might wish. Heck, it's 50 years since 1970, when the music was still original and new stuff was coming out every week (I think a lot in terms of the music I was listening to during a year. 1967, for example, was psychedelic. I loved it). It took decades for grass to become legal in some of our states, with Texas, unsurprisingly, lagging behind, even if the music in Texas back then was cutting edge. I've heard that patience is a virtue. I didn't have much back then, but I've developed some. Perhaps Bernie's most ardent supporters should develop some patience, as well.
What life long views on trade? Trump agrees with them. They did not have to move very far to get there The Never Trumpers are only worried about how Trump is an idiot that will bungle their policy and the safety of the country, as we see now. There isn't much separating Trump from McConnel or even Mitt Romney policy wise...Romney just (likely) thinks the guy is a dummy that will hurt the party in the long run while Mitch hopes to use him to get what he wants passed. As far as policies, Trump agrees with them. Tax cuts, deregulations, it's much the same. The super conservative SCOTUS judges that he promised he'd give the evangelicals.
You didn't explicitly say special but your words are pretty clear here... You think Bernie supporters are different from others when really...this is just standard internet warfare. You should see Apple v Android fans or Nintendo v Sony fans or Kanye v Swift fans...this is just standard internet stuff, Bernie fans are no different, their arguments are different, but of course, they can be super defensive and trollish...just like any other politician fanbase. That's all I'm saying. That is all the study is saying. Warren has issues with random twitter opinions just like Harden does, or Lebron, or any one. That is twitter. This is the internet. I really hope that people stop making articles and fuss about twitter reactions or internet reactions at all. It seems to be the go-to thing nowadays for news to just get some twitter reactions and then go "This is how (Insert group here) feels." like I feel people get too caught up in reactions of random people who may be trolling, bots, or just plain stupid anyway. Also, I don't know if M4A is a compromise but the idea that he's already so against it does worry me. If a democratic congress sends him that bill and he vetoes it there will be issues. We can judge the policy when/if it is proposed though.
I don't disagree, in fact, I agree. I've said before I think Bernie would have compromised because I think he would have had to. I supported Bernie (After Warren, she was my first choice) because I knew he ardently believed in the issues he championed. I'm not sure Biden does or the others do, I worry that any little obstacle will halt progress whereas with Bernie I know he'd stubbornly fight to get something as close as he can to his policy. And while the world may not change as quickly as we wish, we should never settle. I think we have to push as hard as we can for progress all the time and that's how major change happens. That's why I'll still vote for Biden even if it feels like not much change will happen because he's closer to it than Trump is. I think Bernie supporters will go out and vote for Biden but I think Biden can make that a lot easier by standing behind something that would excite them to do so. Even if it is just a promise to do all he can to halt the climate change or fight for the legalization of weed...just one policy to excite people for 4 years of Biden more than "At least he's not Trump." I don't want the standards of that office to become "At least s/he's not Trump."
Did you read the article? It's pretty self explanatory: there are "Bernis Bros" but they behave just like every other candidate's supporters do (as you, a self professed "Butti-Buddy," are pretty much proving right now with your comments). Bernie just happens to have more supporters online than most of the other Democratic candidates.
Joe Biden would be smart to champion both of the issues you mentioned. Here's some of his stances on those issues, via Politico: Mary Jane - - The federal government has generally taken a hands-off approach to enforcing federal mar1juana laws in states that have authorized medical or recreational markets. But that informal policy could be reversed by any administration at any moment. That's why some Democrats -- including former New York City Mayor Mike Bloomberg and former Vice President Joe Biden -- have endorsed allowing state-legal markets to operate without fear of punishment from the federal government. - Biden also has a lengthy record of championing tough criminal penalties for drug crimes during his decades-long Senate career. Perhaps most significantly, he backed the 1994 crime bill, which led to a massive increase in the number of Americans behind bars. But Biden's stance has evolved significantly. He now supports allowing states to pursue their own mar1juana policies without fear of federal punishment and eliminating criminal penalties for mar1juana crimes. - Biden's even flirted with backing full legalization. "I think it is at the point where it has to be, basically, legalized," he said on the campaign trail just before the New Hampshire primary, in response to a question from a legalization advocate. But Biden also indicated that he wouldn't support moving forward with legalization unless there was support from medical experts. In addition, the former vice president's campaign told POLITICO that his stance had not changed. (Deck, that's me! - he could unequivocally endorse full legalization. Legalize and tax it, like alcohol) - Biden has called for expunging past mar1juana convictions. (good!) Climate Change - - Fossil fuels from lands under the federal government's control accounted for about one-quarter of U.S. carbon dioxide emissions between 2005 and 2014. Biden would end new oil and gas drilling on Federal land. End off-shore drilling. Biden is willing to forego the $8 billion a year the federal government gets from oil and gas production on Federal land. (Deck - I haven't seen his position on fracking, and Politico doesn't mention it) - Nuclear Power: Biden has a unique position on nuclear power, according to Politico. Biden supports developing new nuclear technologies as part of an effort to fight climate change. Utilities and scientists are developing nuclear power reactors that are much smaller than the massive facilities that have been used in past decades. A typical nuclear reactor at a power plant may produce 1,000 megawatts of power, enough to power about 1 million homes. But the new reactors, called Small Modular Reactors that the Energy Department's national labs are helping to develop, would produce perhaps 50 to 100 megawatts. (Deck - This sounds very interesting to me. Controversial, but intriguing.) - Carbon Emissions: Biden would tax carbon emissions as part of an effort to reduce and eventually eliminate them. From Politico: Economists typically view a carbon tax as the most efficient way to get businesses to reduce their greenhouse gas emissions, but environmental activists say that would be insufficient to secure the reductions needed in a relatively short period of time. Most carbon tax proposals floated by Democrats this year envision returning much of the proceeds through regular dividend payments to offset higher energy costs. - Former Vice President Joe Biden proposed taking American agriculture to net-zero emissions by “dramatically” expanding a voluntary USDA conservation program that pays farmers, under five-year contracts, to adopt certain practices — though he didn’t specify how much this would cost or set a target date. He also said the program should be part of new carbon markets by allowing corporations, individuals and foundations to contribute funding to offset their emissions. (Deck - Biden could come out for a "cap and trade" program through the EPA. Several European countries have had similar programs for years. This would put his stance closer to that of Warren and Bernie) https://www.politico.com/2020-election/candidates-views-on-the-issues/joe-biden/
So now you are interpreting my words? I see you are taking this personally so I am gonna stop but it's interesting that you think compromising means adopting Bernies policies.
So where in that did she accuse her own party? But again she does seem to be rehashing talking points because this seems to be the reason for the long lines. Same day registration. And that's a good thing. https://www.mlive.com/public-intere...day-registration-in-presidential-primary.html
You realize Michigan has largely been under GOP control for the last 30 years right? GOP has had full control of the governorship, Senate, and House for 14 of the past 28 years, including 2011-2018. Dems had it *zero* of those 28 years. Currently, both the House and Senate are under GOP control. The GOP instituted the voter suppression measures. They literally attacked ballot initiatives overwhelming approved by their citizens: https://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/michigan-gop-targets-ballot-measures-voting-rights Before Dems took power of the governorship in 2018, they pushed a bunch of lame-duck session bills as well: https://apnews.com/fe38a03832aa4a3e893e20bf62d10c17
Wow! The stereotype 1960's liberal "hippy" when young. now a self satisfied boomer who had the good luck to live through the golden age of the US middle class and has little sympathy for the struggle of the young like Biden has proclaimed. Preaching patience. Easy for the contented. You do not think Bernie has compromised by urging his voters to support the Iraq War voting, welfare bashing, mass encarceration proponents, tax reduction for the rich etc. (I know some movement now that the wind has changed) Hillary and if needed Biden? Jeeze.
BTW, where is the compromise by the scorched earth tactics of Obama and the establishment Dems to foist the obviously impaired Biden as the candidate just to hold on to their power? Biden unless the corona virus changes things will be eaten alive by Trump. Rumor is that the Dems will try to prop up old Joe with an obviously VP competent and intelligent woman to allay fears of Joe's decline, but can the VP actually carry the ticket even against Trump? Imagine if GOP style the Dem establishment had united around the obviously mentally competent Sanders vs Trump. But, "no" the wealthy Dems who make up the DNC rules as they go would rather lose to Trump than have Sanders with his majorly funded Green New Deal, medicare for all, free public colleges, cancellation of student and medical debt, which only the naive think will ever be paid etc.
This is a problem I run into debating older Clutchfans "moderates". They project their golden years of being able to own a home and pay off the mortgage and come out of the meat grinder of life with owned property and retirement savings and believe that the current generation have the same exact access to that success. Hence why all they care about is "going back to normal" when it comes to what our government should do which is crazy because the status quo got us Trump. So we are just going to have a repeat cycle between "normal" and "bull through a China shop" with our elected officials. There also is this naiveness and lack of skepitism amongst these same group of posters where they ignore basic human desires and needs and assume that established Democrat politicans are altruistic and aren't self serving where their first property will always be maintaining power and trying to increase that power.
Yeah those Bernie supporters are sure trying to bring the party together by lashing out at "moderates" "wealthy dems" and the establishment. But hey its Biden supporters that need to reach out and compromise. Jaygoogle?
