Lol as if having the entire DNC establishment and mainstream media such as CNN and MsNBC disproportionately have more favorable coverage of Biden doesn't help. Biden is for allowing the status quo that allows a trillion dollar insurance industry to thrive. Bernie doesn't. Money talks. Money can be influential in SO many ways outside of direct campaign donations such as having bankers fund think tanks like Third Way that do skewed studies they spam on mainstream news outlets helps frame a over arching narrative. And these "think tanks" will always be deemed as credible as long as they throw some social justice Identity politics red meat. As long as your think tank is socially proggresive and is for gay and transgender rights you are deemed credible to mainstream outlets even though your think tanks purely exists to personally benefit the bankers who fund these "think tanks". No one is inspired by Biden. No one. Anyone who says they are exited for Biden today were not saying the same things about him in his 40 years of being in the public sphere which makes me believe it's purely out of wishful thinking when they say "I'm exited about Biden".
See I'm an anomaly though lol. I like Biden because he's risk-averse. I like someone who says "hey I've been doing this all my life, I can beat that so-called 'stable genius' in the White House, I will re-join the Paris Accord first day in office. Trust me to get things done; I have Republican friends in the Senate" Boom. Wham bam thank you ma'am. Sure he could do better by nailing down two or three issues he's TRULY passionate about (similar to Bernie with healthcare), but I love Biden because he encompasses an all-around presidential vibe. I'm less interested in what people say they want to achieve; rather I like to see their personality and how they operate. I like the ideology of Booker, the eloquence of Obama, the folksiness of Klobuchar; but to me Biden is the trustworthy old statesmen who will get things done.
I mean I would feel more at ease with a Biden presidency than Trump also. I know Biden isn't going to use anti-Muslim rhetoric to gather votes. He's not a evil person at his core like Trump. In that sense I understand that but Biden is benefiting from low expectations here. I fear a Biden presidency is going to make a large portion of upper middle class and wealthy voters think "thank God we are back to normalcy" and just go back to ignoring the deep rooted systemic problems that has caused these trends for the past 50 years. That'd my most grave concern with a Biden presidency.
He had no money and no ads on tv. The idea he got favorable media coverage is so weird to me. Prior to the Buttigieg and Klobuchar endorsements the talk on MSNBC was that Biden would have to drop out after SC. Bernie people see conspiracies in the coverage everywhere. It is true that Bernie gets skepticism from the media, no doubt, but the idea that Biden was being praised is just laughable. His rallies weren't being carried. The primary "guests" on MSNBC were essentially saying he had no shot, etc. People may not be "inspired" by Biden but they have genuine affection for him. Just keep blaming other people though, maybe one of these years Bernie will win with that strategy.
Dude, Biden doesn't have the upward battle of trying to scave of millions of dollars in private interests funneled through "think tanks" that Bernie does. You don't see Third Way trying to prevent Biden from being elected. https://www.prwatch.org/news/2020/0...nded-corporate-interests-attacks-sanders-iowa Biden heavily benefits from the disproportionate funding AGAINST Bernie. You keep on concentrating on PACs that specifically endorse Biden and are part of Biden's campaign. That is an extremely disingenuous way to evaluate influence. Biden also has the entire support of the DNC establishment. Pretty much all the PACs that support Pete, Amy and all the other candidates are now just attacking Bernie. You don't have to be directly affiliated with the Biden campaign to attack Bernie in many different methods such as having a disproportionate voice of your views on CNN and MSNBC or having influence in caucuses or funding "studies" that the mainstream media will believe at face value. How niave do you to be to believe a trillion dollar industry who will have an existential crisis if Bernie is elected isn't going to kick and scream using EVERY method available to them to prevent that from happening. Not such the insurance industry but Wall Street in general as his reform is extremely harsh on them also. And MSNBC stating that Biden has "no shot" was during a time frame where the establishment lane of the DNC was comfortable with Pete as their front runner therefore they were fine with throwing Biden under the buss. From here on out MSNBC and CNN will paint him as the one savior who can beat Trump c
That's like the one thing everyone talks about Biden, that people genuinely love the guy. Hell, I like him too, even though I didn't want him to win the nomination.
You conflate arguments and then throw in things that aren't part of what's being discussed to try to discredit me by calling me naive. We aren't arguing who the health insurance industry prefers. Duh, they prefer Biden to Bernie. We aren't arguing who Wall Street prefers. Duh, they prefer Biden. And yes, those groups of people spend money to support candidates that are best for their interests, just like every other group of motivated people. I'm not naive about that at all. Your point was that no one is excited about Biden and that Biden has been propped up by the media. I'm pushing back against this. It's been a two person race for a week. I'm not going to let you turn the last week into a referendum on how the whole campaign has gone. Bernie had an easy road in his lane. He was essentially unchallenged for 35% of the democratic electorate. Biden was in a lane that was full of essentially everyone else. He had no money, no ads, no endorsements. And yet he wiped them all out. Now it is a two person race and yes, all of those interests are going to align behind Biden against Bernie, but in reality they don't need to.
The DNC wants him as the candidate. Maybe if Bernie wasn't so polarizing and wasn't such a whiner all the time, maybe he would get some support from the DNC. Instead he complains about the establishment, you know the very same establishment he is using to get votes, otherwise he wouldn't even be in the conversation as an independent. You can't keep just blaming everyone else for the lack of support. You always hear that people like Joe and that he works with others versus Bernie is not well viewed as far as working with others. Maybe Bernie should have developed a relationship with others in the party and compromised every now and then and made it easier to work with him. There is a history there and the DNC has chosen the candidate they believe will win. That's their opinion and whether it is true or not won't be seen until election time. Seriously, this blame game does get annoying and tiresome.
And there is a difference between some declaring themselves a "democratic socialist" and a "Democrat". It's nice that Bernie is honest with how he wants to be labeled, but this has caused huge issues for people actually supporting him.
Ya grass roots organizations created from middle class and poor activists have the same influence as Wall Street Bankers and a trillion dollar insurance industry. Obviously they don't and that is the core essense of the problem of why we have had these economic trends that coalesce wealth while the rest of America is left behind for the past 50 years.
Here is what I'm specifically "whining" about. We have two entities that are basically monopolies in our electoral process. To run for president you need to blessing of Wall Street to successfully win. If you don't find these things problematic, then our ideals and beliefs are very far apart. There is no room in the air for a third party. Asking a candidate that wants to bring genuine reform but avoid the two parties to get elected is like asking someone to create their own search engine to compete with Google and take them down.
Money will always influence politics, you can try to minimize it, but you can never remove it. Even if you wipe out all the money at the top, a new group of money will just replace them. You need money to get things done, that's just how it works.
What do you base this on? I don't see any evidence that voters do not like Biden..... perhaps Biden does not appeal to a demographic that you are part of but he has a level of support right now that Sanders has never had.
That specific criticism of likability isn't just directed and Biden. Both Biden and Bernie have that issue for different reasons. For Biden, people see the same old policies that have allowed the sustained economic trends of the past 50 years. With Bernie they see an angry man who's "whiny" and has pie in the sky ideas. At least that is the perception. https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-2020-front-runners-arent-as-well-liked-as-past-contenders/ We are really banking on the country really hating Trump.
Most people would agree that unlimited PAC money is not helpful, so you can start there, there is actually a chance to get that done if you get to replace some justices. Or we can have four more years of Trump and appoint two more super conservative justices.
Ehh not sure how much to read into the article and polling data. Look at Donald Trump in that same article, he was disliked far more than Clinton and still won the election. Also Bush and Obama existed in less divisive times and had less prior public exposure than candidates like Biden or Sanders or even Romney. I understand what you are getting at, but it isn't as simple as banking on people hating Trump. Also, a lot of people have positive views of the Obama presidency and the economy during that time period. Not everyone is looking at the last 50 years and relating it to what Biden is or is not.
He is the only choice left. You either like Sanders or you don't. This isn't like it was with Warren, Pete, Bloomberg, and Klobuchar. Biden didnt clear the field. The other candidates dropped out for the better good of the party ... which includes first defeating Bernie, and then Trump. With all of the other candidates running it to the end, Bernie wins. I am not sure how you can arbitrarily say Biden is well liked. And thats not say Biden is a bad guy (comparing apples to apples with Hillary), just that many of us do not believe he will be an effective president outside of 'run it back'. And we all know how effective 'run it back' works.
