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[OFFICIAL] Bernie Sanders for President thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. Os Trigonum

    Os Trigonum Member
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    lots of people have basically said this.
     
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    Yeah he is losing the luster from his brand.

    I am beginning to form a theory about Sanders, I will keep it to myself.
     
  3. HP3

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    Better surrogates like Joe Biden ....cmon. .....Bernie, Warren, and Yang were much better than him. He's not a good candidate with or without Trump.
     
  4. justtxyank

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    He's so ridiculous.

    His attacks on Biden are so ridiculous too.

    I heard his surrogate today on the radio say it's harder to run a grassroots campaign than one funded by billionaires. (More of this 60 billionaires have contributed to Biden stuff.)

    Those 60 billionaires gave a combined like $200,000 to Biden. Biden has raised FAR less than Bernie and spend FAR less than Bernie. His superpac that Bernie is so worked up about spent less than $2 million leading up to Super Tuesday lol.

    This stuff is just so old.
     
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  5. Jayzers_100

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    At the end of the day, if you want M4A or endorse any of Bernie's policies..a vote for Biden is better than a vote for Trump and probably better than a vote for Bernie. Yes, JOE BIDEN is a smarter vote if you want M4A than Bernie Sanders. That's not a typo. If any "progressive" piece of legislation were to be passed, the most effective route is to have a democratic majority in the House and Senate. The party gradually moves left. A Bernie election after Obama might have been palatable; I get why Clinton securing the nom leaves a bad taste in people's mouths. But after 4 years of Trump's mayhem, the country is going to feel a lot more comfortable with someone like Biden. You have to swing things back to the middle before you can go left. Going from Trump's blatant corruption to Bernie's rejection of capitalism was never going to work in 2020.
     
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    Nobody has said any of this.
     
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    related:

    https://reason.com/2020/03/04/loser...ns-stop-freaking-out-about-money-in-politics/

    Losers Bloomberg and Steyer Spent Millions. Stop Freaking Out About Money in Politics.
    Michael Bloomberg spent at least $500 million in his bid for a Super Tuesday blitz. He came away with...American Samoa.
    Eric Boehm | 3.4.2020 12:10 AM

    Michael Bloomberg spent $500 million in his bid for a Super Tuesday blitz.

    He came away with…American Samoa.

    Not all the results are reported yet, but the former New York City mayor appears on track to finish first in exactly zero of the 14 states that held primaries and caucuses on Tuesday night. He did win the caucuses in American Samoa (getting four delegates), and he appears to have picked up a few delegates in Colorado (and he may get a few more in California or Texas). Still, it is impossible to view Tuesday's results as anything other than a major disappointment for the billionaire who dumped nine figures of his personal fortune into the race.

    He saturated the airwaves with his ads. He hired more than 2,500 people to work on his campaign. He skipped the first few states of the nominating process, apparently believing that his air support would do what other candidates' ground troops could not.

    For a little while, it looked like it might have been working. But his debate performances partially deflated his rise, and Tuesday's expensive failure may force Bloomberg out of the race.

    ***

    Oh, and the other billionaire in the Democratic primary? That would be Tom Steyer, the guy who dropped out three days ago after spending more than $250 million and winning exactly zero delegates.

    It's fashionable for Democrats—and, if polls are to be believed, many Republicans too—to believe that something must be done about the supposedly intolerable influence of money in American politics.

    Indeed, there is a lot of money in American politics, as the ongoing Democratic primary (and every election in recent memory) makes clear. But after Super Tuesday, it seems clear that candidates cannot buy their way into the White House.

    Former Vice President Joe Biden, who appears to have been the big winner on Tuesday, had fundraising issues during the primary campaign. He was outspent not only by Bloomberg and Steyer, but by Sen. Bernie Sanders (I–Vt.). Biden won Tuesday's primaries in Minnesota and Massachusetts while spending hardly any money in either place.

    "We believe in old-fashioned democracy: one person, one vote, not billionaires buying elections," Sanders said at a rally in mid-February.

    Well, good news for Sanders. Billionaires aren't buying this election.

    Money, at best, buys you a ticket to the dance. It cannot make you the prom king.
     
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    Sory, I have no idea what this is supposed to mean.

    Not trying to be snarky but do you know what a surrogate is?
     
  9. Nook

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    Part of the problem is that the Sanders campaign hasn't handled falling behind Biden....... no one on their side should be discussing "unfair" or criticizing the DNC system right now. Sanders should be exuding confidence and pointing out that the race is still close and nothing has been decided.... he needs to try to get Warren actively involved in his campaign and at some of his events...... instead the reaction is... well lets fold up the tent.
     
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    An actual nuanced article that was posted by O's.

    Good job son.
     
  11. Os Trigonum

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    thanks Pops
     
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    [​IMG]

    I actually had a Trump supporter that is a Judge I know send me this about 30 minutes ago.....
     
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    Yeah, I am fairly convinced Trump could have won (or at least nearly won) in 2016 with just his free twitter account and whatever his rallies cost. (Also hard to guestimate the value of free media his existence seems to attract.)
     
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    Had not looked at it like that and you are right, this attitude about things will depress his turnout.
     
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    Seems to ignore a lot of the history of propaganda in anti-Semitism, which is very sad.

    [Or even worse, embraces that history.]
     
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    Well...the race is basically over and he knows it. So he needs to try to nuke Biden if he wants to make a crazy comeback.
     
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    Yeah, Trump supporters are worse than Bernie Bros.
     
  18. Nook

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    I am sure he is aware of it...... got to protect that pocket book.
     
  19. JayGoogle

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    I think the bigger and main concern about money in politics are big interests influencing politicians.

    Not so much if it helps people win or not but that it corrupts politicians to support or be against things they may not have ordinarily supported or fought.
     
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    Yea my fault I was typing in rush without reading that fully, apologies.

    On to the point, so you are mad at some of his supporters??? Thats it, you dislike Bernie because some of his people coulndt give you the exact answers you wanted. Why not go check his website. You are acting like a majority of Bernie supporters/people are like this angry mob when its not true. And the rich are definitely screwing over people in the country, youd have to be blind not to see that.
     
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