He did the samething in 2016. For most of the primaries he was railing against Superdelegates. As the votes started to pile against him he started calling for the Superdelegates to save him.
Of course she has. Living in Minnesota I hear it first hand. I can sympathize and agree that she has been targeted by biased and racists attacks. That doesn't mean that she speaks or even really understands the state. I was surprised that Biden won Minnesota but it's clear that this state is far more Klobuchar than it is Omar. Frankly some stuff that Omar has said particularly regarding 9/11 isn't helping.
This was always one of the biggest weaknesses of Sander's campaign. He relied upon the most unreliable voter block to carry him. Supertuesday looked like most elections with the elderly being a far more reliable block than the youth. I don't think Sanders is defeated and he does have a chance to still pull this out. He also has a chance to win the general. His strategy though is based upon the bet that he actually can turn out enough new voters to counter Biden's elderly and African American advantage. As I've said in the general Sanders could win but that is also based on squeezing more blue votes from blue areas to counter Trump's advantage in rural areas and possibly in the suburbs. It is all possible but it is a big gamble that so far isn't paying off.
So you're dropping the position that she is only a representative for her district? I live in her district so I hear from her a lot. She very clearly has aspirations for something bigger and clearly sees herself as a leader who could've delivered MN to Sanders. Nothing wrong with being ambitious and there are plenty of politicians who's endorsements haven't delivered. That said she is a first term Representative and who's prior experience was only one term as a MN House Representative. That she beat some more experienced candidates to make it to the general is a testament to her skill but if she does want to get to higher office and represent more than MN 5. She should learn more about the state. Klobuchar and Ellison both were only Twin Cities politicians but to their credit they did take time to learn much more about the state.
And I doubt she'll succeed in having the confidence of rural white voters in MN. Not because of her polices but rather who she is and the smears of her being a Sharia law terrorist sympathizer who ****s her brother apparently. Ellison though a Muslim, didn't wear his religion like she does with the hijab. He also isn't an immigrant so he can be seen as more "real American".
Not exactly. Ellison had a lot of baggage including being the first Muslim US Rep. He also had baggage with a scandal regarding his ex-wife. He was still able to win statewide. True he didn't carry rural areas but he won enough suburban and rural voters to convincingly beat his Republican opponent. He did it by learning about the state and tailoring his message. While he came into Congress as a liberal firebrand he has shown the ability to develop his message and work the system. As I said before Omar is very new. She might grow into her position and years from now we might be talking about Senator Omar, Majority leader Omar, who knows. At the moment though she is just a backbencher. And that isn't just because of the racist attacks against her. Ellison dealt with similar attacks and he's now Attorney General Ellison.
I'm going to be very blunt here and I apologize to fchowd and others because I don't know any more subtle way of saying this. The discussion with Omar is very telling regarding the mindset of Sanders' supporters. It seems to me like the postmortem is largely about blaming outside forces (the establishment, billionaires, racist white Minnesotans, etc..) rather than what the candidate can do better. With Omar I fully agree she's been attacked with some of the most vile racist attacks. That's bad but that doesn't mean that is the only thing that is holding her back. At the same time Sanders appears to be doubling down on revolution and taking down the establishment. Has he or his supporters considered maybe his message isn't as strong as they think? That maybe the strategy of counting on the most unrealiable voter block isn't a good strategy? The warning signs were already there in Iowa and New Hampshire, two states that Demographics favored Sanders, he couldn't put away Pete Buttigieg. If you compare that to Biden he's gotten stronger. He's gotten better at debates and he's sharpened his message. People talk about how all the moderates are clearing out for him but consider why would they do that if they didn't feel that he actually has a chance? I can't stand Biden but I will give him credit that he is adapting and getting better. He didn't just say "woe is me. Everyone is against me because they think I'm old and goofy" He worked and got better. I give Sanders a lot of credit for his work ethic but I'm not seeing him adapting or even growing his message. It's the same message and the same rhetoric from four years ago. Other than making some inroads into Hispanics he's not growing his following. If anything he is just blaming others for not jumping on board his vision.
I'm also going to be frank here. You are merely discussing a presidential campaign that is most likely going to fail with Bernie now. Supporters for every politician that fail do the same thing. When Hillary lost, it was 35% of the country are racists and misogynistic and Russia tagged along also along with Bernie being stubborn apparently. Plenty of those factors are genuine reasons why she lost and her campaign, herself and her supporters directed blame outward. And I'm telling you, dismissing the frustration people have with establishment politics is going to bite this country in the ass in the next few decades. It's part of the reason why Trump is our current president. And you are also ignoring the many posts I've made in the past 3 months critical of Bernie. I've labeled some of his actions from stupid to naive several times. Hell, just use the search function. I'm now arguing from a standpoint where I'm actually quite shocked at how many posters here dismiss complains about the well connected establishment political leadership. I never knew there was so much naiveness where some people genuinely think that elite party leaders are purely driven by altruism. It's self evident in our past 50 years of economic trends that I've explained in an earlier post that they obviously are not. I mean people are willfully ignoring basic human nature to dismiss systemic complaints about establishment politics as if the term "establishment" is some time of kooky 9/11 truther ****. Just expect more polarization and more Americans running towards the fringes if we ignore these things.
This has been the story of this campaign though all around. Kamala Harris and Cory Booker dropped out because racism. Elizabeth Warren has struggled to catch on because sexism. Bernie loses yesterday because CORPORATE ELITISTS! Just constant excuses and complaining. The one person who has a really good argument that he was discriminated against was Mayor Pete and he NEVER raised it as an issue. Elizabeth Warren raised it constantly. She gets a tough question at a townhall and she and her twitter army are calling sexism. She's constantly on this "it's harder because I'm a woman" schtick. Bernie is the worst though. There is constantly a complaint. Someone is always out to get him. His supporters see conspiracies everywhere. As to Omar...she is ridiculous. Like most extreme fringe politicians, she sees herself as proof that her party reflects her instead of being an outlier. Yesterday she whining that it wasn't fair to Bernie because Warren didn't drop out so Biden go to win with divided votes. She totally ignored that Bloomberg took 10-20 percent of votes through the Super Tuesday states as well lol.
No, it's definitely absurd to think a near trillion dollar industry (private health insurance) would place their thumb on the scale with their lobbying and campaign money influence to make it as difficult as possible for Sanders to win. Let me guess, monied interests in politics is a conspiracy also. I mean what crazy person would think of such absurd things. Trillion dollars industry being self-interested ?!?! And here I thought Cigna shareholders provided coverage out of their love of humanity.
1) Of course health insurance industry is self interested. Everyone is self interested 2) CIGNA shareholders are people. 3) Biden wasn't getting any funding basically lol. 4) Black people around the country and basically all suburban whites didn't rally to Biden's cause because of any establishment money. They simply chose "moderate" over "extreme"
I agree with you that there were plenty of big businesses that were against Bernie. In many cases he's against them too. But that being the cause of him losing hasn't been shown. Big health insurance and other huge corporate interests are against Bernie. Bernie isn't winning the nomination. That doesn't prove that one caused the other. Did those big money interests cause young voters to stay at home on Super Tuesday? If they did, then it would be a reason to strike down Citizens United. I believe even Biden is in favor of that. But if cause was shown, that wasn't something underhanded or unknown before Bernie entered the race. Those same interests were against him prior to NH and Iowa but he still did well in those contests. Stating two true things and inferring or claiming that one caused the other without real evidence is how conspiracy theories work.
You act as if voters have direct access to politicians and their rhetoric. We are so free and willing to express our concerns about right wing media and their disinformation campaigns. I mean what is "disinformation" most of the time in our news media. In most cases it's merely just concentrating on certain stories and narratives while ignoring others. Black voters, white voters, moderates, extremists, erc, they all shape their views based on the media they consume.
Did the health insurance companies even run ads this year? Did they give money to Joe Biden? Biden ran no ads in Minnesota or Mass, never campaigned, etc. But him winning there is because billionaire corporate interests stopped Bernie? By doing what exactly lol?
So the conspiracy against Bernie is that the media lied about him? I just want to understand the argument. Privately, behind the scenes the party leaders and health insurance companies coordinated with the media to lie about Bernie and support Joe Biden? The easiest argument against this is that even though 538 was showing major movement to Biden as soon as he won SC, the major news outlets were still essentially saying his best hope was a contested convention. Before SC they were talking about him dropping out. There's just no evidence that the media "helped" Biden.
