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Super Tuesday Predictions

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. justtxyank

    justtxyank Member

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    Wasserman: Joe Biden will win the most delegates and will leave Super Tuesday with a delegate lead.
    More Wasserman: Depending on final numbers in CA and TX, Joe Biden may have effectively won the nomination tonight.
     
  2. Buck Turgidson

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    Point of order:

    Mussolini did not in fact make the trains run on time.

    Carry on.
     
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  3. fchowd0311

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    You are the one who brought up Castro. And btw if we are merely discussing the electability of someone who says something positive about Cuba and some of their social programs, Barack Obama had multiple videos praising the Cuban healthcare system. Last time I checked, he was a two term president.
     
  4. TheresTheDagger

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    Good vs Evil came from your piehole, not mine.

    I'm talking political strategy. If you're too dense to see complimenting Castro is a LOSER politically, I can't help you.
     
  5. fchowd0311

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    The last two term president praised multiple Cuban social programs.
     
  6. Roxfreak724

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    Lol this is why no one can have a discussion with people like you.
     
  7. foh

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    All the candidates for president have drawbacks. POTUS Trump, for instance, loves Putin/Xi Jinping/Duterto. With two of them having nukes directed at us right this moment, it makes your Castro argument not very nuanced there. A good hot take, at best.
     
  8. TheresTheDagger

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    #1. There is a plethora of articles debunking that Obama "praised" Castro.
    #2. Whatever was said by Obama concerning Castro took place after he was re-elected so of course it had no poltical consequence.
     
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  9. TheresTheDagger

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    Still up in your feelings? That's a shame.

    When you calm down, feel free to respond to the political discourse.
     
  10. geeimsobored

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    It is totally fair to call out the way special interests have weakened legislation and stopped otherwise popular reforms. But this is also a political party nomination process. Parties have leaders, platforms and entrenched interests. That's how they work.

    And yes it makes it an uphill climb for outsider candidates. Trump had similar hurdles but he did successfully over come those on the Republican side. It looks like Sanders is coming up short.

    Biden has some inherent advantages. He has tons of earned goodwill from decades as a Democratic politician (especially in his earlier days when relationships determined everything). He's run multiple national campaigns and over the course of those campaigns, he's made relationships with local political leaders that can help on the ground. You can see that in places like South Carolina where Biden had personal relationships with African American leaders. Jim Clyburn endorsed Biden for that very reason. Bernie unfortunately has no equivalent set of goodwill and relationships.

    I know that its easy to say that the "establishment" represents some scheming DNC staffers that are trying to tip the scales but in reality Biden's advantage came in the form of relationships that he earned over time. This is a race for a party nomination after all. And with Biden's work for the party relative to Sanders's refusal to even join the Democratic Party, can anyone be shocked that Democratic insiders generally support Biden? Politics is a game of relationships and Bernie hasn't done a very good job of building them.
     
  11. fchowd0311

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  12. TheresTheDagger

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    That's true. None of that makes Castro praising smart politically and that's all i've said here tonight.
     
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  13. Deckard

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    It’s our middle class, and our working class, and everyone else who falls between the cracks. It’s time to save the country from a madman ensconced in the White House who has never read the Constitution, thinks what he does know of it doesn’t apply to him, and is supported by a corrupt Republican Party majority in the Senate. We have to unite and throw them out of office, and some of them in jail, in my humble opinion.
     
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    Yup. I agree. It's all about backing the person you know is going to reward you with a position in the administration.
     
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    These aren't deep fake videos dude. Both men praised programs created under Castro. Both praised their education and healthcare. Both expressed their distaste for his authoritarianism.
     
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    It now appears that Joe Biden will win a majority of the delegates even if Bernie wins California in a landslide.

    Stunning.
     
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    Smh Pete and Biden dishonest assholes lol.
     
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    Ya, hopefully we can do it.

    Biden's policy set doesn't comprehensively speak to the needs of working people, that's all I'm saying.
     
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  20. geeimsobored

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    So you're honestly suggesting that African American pastors that told their congregations to vote for Biden are in it to get appointed to positions in an administration?

    The same goes for state legislators in rural areas that endorsed Biden. I know its easy to be cynical about politics but this is a bit over the top. Now I understand you saying that about someone like Klobuchar or Buttigeg endorsing him. But local leaders endorsing Biden can be more than just a transactional relationship.
     
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