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Super Tuesday Predictions

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Major, Feb 26, 2020.

  1. baller4life315

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    How do you post pictures?

    I have Klobuchar gifs I have no idea how to post. HELP :)
     
  2. jiggyfly

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    Biden did well with younger black voters as well.

    Bernie does terribly in the suburbs.
     
  3. jiggyfly

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    Bernie has some bad advocates on tv, I have been paying close attention to them and it's all grievance politics.

    One on CNN said Biden needs to stop lecturing people.

    Yeah he really said that.

    They also all go one and on about the establishment and the billionaire class, they need some fresh material.
     
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  4. Mr.Pringles

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    Bernie with a 5.7% lead so far in Texas
     
  5. FranchiseBlade

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    That was a shocker for me. Had to be disappointing for Bernie.

    Overall a huge night for Biden. I would say he's the definite favorite now.
     
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  6. justtxyank

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    Bernie in danger of falling below viability in Alabama and losing Maine.
     
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    You misheard. Another panelist challenged him on that and his response was that Biden surrogates do that. Your overall point stands.
     
  8. Astrodome

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    Biden is a trip. Trump is fortunate they chose him over warren.
     
  9. jiggyfly

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    Your right, I thought I included that.

    My bad.
     
  10. Mr.Scarface

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    Until Latinos make up a good chunk of the electorate in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Ohio, it is not an issue. Those states need a energized Black electorate. Remember....those states are why Trump won.
     
  11. jiggyfly

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    If it was not for bloomberg Biden would be running away with this thing.

    But it was probably the kick in the pants he needed and he took the spotlight off Biden in the debates.

    I say it's a wash.
     
  12. Mr.Scarface

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    No. He is MUCH stronger than Hillary in Michigan, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.
     
  13. Kim

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    At least the debates will be full of foot-in-mouth moments for both sides that SNL can parody. Election season bits are their 1 seed.
     
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    If Bernie falls below viability in Alabama that is a devastating blow to the Bernie campaign.

    This night is the most shocking thing since Trump.
     
  15. Redfish81

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    I don't see it as shocking at all. The fix was in since the Iowa caucus. They just didn't know who to get behind. South Carolina pointed the way and then they all fell in line.
     
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  16. Mr.Scarface

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    Biden can get white, working class voters. That is what makes him tough against Trump.
     
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    I think there's some potential for Sanders to get them as well but what is clear is that Biden is able to gain working class voters AND run up the score in the suburbs. That combination is potent. That opens the possibility of making gains in the Midwest/Rust Belt while simultaneously making a push in the Sun Belt and parts of the South (North Carolina and Georgia). Sanders has a narrow path to victory (winning back Wisconsin/Michigan/Pennsylvania) while Biden has a much wider path as Arizona is now clearly in play in addition to possibly winning North Carolina (and Georgia as a really long shot).

    Part of elections is expanding the map and pathways to victory. Obama's strength was the never ending paths to victory because he expanded the map so effectively. Bernie wouldn't have that luxury in a general election since its clear that he isn't getting the suburban vote.
     
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    Eh I don't know, if you read too much of the political online Twitter verse everyone last week or whatever was saying "we've seen this movie this is Trump 2016 primary all over again! Bernie is unstoppable"

    There's a recency/cognitive bias in interpreting events that way.

    I disagreed with that assessment then, I don't think the Democratic coalition was as primed to accept Sanders slogan heavy vision of ! Revolution! as Republicans were to accept Trumps package of racism/corruption/bullying and **** everyone else.

    In a big tent party factions are going to compromise. In a homogeneous party not so much. And in the end most of the stuff that conservative ideology professed to care about (neocon policy, federalism/states rights, small government, free trade) was actually a bunch of nothing to their voters who are a raw tribe who want to beat the other tribe and feel good about it, that's it.
     
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    Most of the southern states that Biden is winning should have been locks for him. I dont know that getting all the wins that he should have gotten counts as a big deal.

    Minnesota surprised me but maybe I just dont know the state well enough. If Texas goes Bernie, that'll be the biggest momentum swing of the night.
     
  20. justtxyank

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    Don't forget that Clinton failed to turn out the black vote in Michigan, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Wisconsin. If Hilary Clinton had merely turned out the same black vote in those states she would have flipped all of them. Several hundred thousand black voters simply didn't vote for her across a combination of states she lost be less than 100k votes.

    Biden has shown he can turn out black votes.
     
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