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[OFFICIAL] Bernie Sanders for President thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. DreamShook

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    Like I said, It's about suppression. Trump is not trying to get you to vote for him, he is trying to get democrats to not vote. Biden has so much baggage that can suppress the vote even if you think it's minor. Biden's record is not good.

    Trump knows he doesn't have to be competent in debates, he just has to jab his opponents and make them look weak.. Democrats care more about competency than Republicans. Trump might get smoked on policy but if he makes Biden look weak, then the damage is done. Once again voter suppression is the move.

    You can talk all about the policies of Bernie being too expensive, but they are very popular across the country with Dems, Republicans, and independents.
     
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  2. jiggyfly

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    Why are you disappointed that Obama may have done something to help his VP of 8 years?

    Why can't he help the guy who he thinks will make a better president?
     
  3. Major

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    Not popular enough for him to win over even half of the Democratic party though.
     
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  4. jiggyfly

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    Nope they have not.

    Trump has a real credibility problem his base is the only ones that takes him seriously.
     
  5. jiggyfly

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    Joe Rogan really?

    Rogan plays to specific audience,

    Does being a roaster and comedian gain you any more support?
     
  6. Roxfreak724

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    Well, I remember Obama when he campaigned on hope and change and yes we can. To back a candidate that is sort of antithetical to that message, to tell us to dream a little less big, to not wish for so much just sucks.

    But I know that Obama is doing what he just thinks is best. I just happen to disagree, and on a more personal level just can't help feel a little let down by my former president.
     
  7. FranchiseBlade

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    There is nothing at all there about Biden and Ukraine. At the worst there is nepotism. But it wasn't even active Nepotism by Biden. I made a whole thread about what Biden supposedly did wrong, and nobody was able to post anything other than possible Nepotism. That isn't a winning attack from the Trump camp.

    Trump will definitely try and bring up Biden and the Ukraine, but there is nothing there. It's something set up to backfire on Trump's campaign if he tries.

    I say that as someone who prefers both Warren and Sanders to Biden. Biden is my third choice of those left in the race.
     
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  8. jiggyfly

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    Of course the DNC has to change for there future voters and they have since Bernie has been on the scene, how is that actively fighting the future?

    Biden does not have to show that neoliberalism can solve issues he just has to be an effective president it's not about a battle of ideologies.

    When has he ever said anything to think he wants to cut anybody out?
     
  9. rocketsjudoka

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    Obama did name Biden as his VP so clearly he didn’t think Biden was antithetical to his message. Also “Hope and change” was a deliberately vague message and one of the main criticisms of Obama’s campaign was how vague and few specifics it had.
     
  10. ThatBoyNick

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    Yeah really? Rogan the professional comedian, and Tom Papa, the professional comedian.

    Yes, I think being a roaster and comedian garners fans and supporters. People like people who make them laugh, human ****.
     
  11. jiggyfly

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    Biden is not antithetical to that message and he has not asked anybody to do any of those things.

    He just has a different idea on how to do things.
     
  12. Roxfreak724

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    Ya lot of us don't see it like that but to each his own.
     
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  13. peleincubus

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    You can think it’s dumb all you want. The bought political system needs to be burned down. If Republicans institute everything they want change will come from the other direction it always does. I don’t give a f*ck about the Supreme Court if that’s what it takes. There needs to be more than 2 parties. The electoral college needs to be changed to a proportion system to not a wonder takes all. That way votes matter more if you vote republican in Cali/NY/Texas etc. There are so many things that need to be done. Biden will be status quo and won’t change a damn thing.
     
  14. jiggyfly

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    So why has Trump not gotten over 50% approval he has been roasting people since he got elected.

    I have been watching Rogen since News Radio and sorry if I don't think the opinion of him and Papa means much.

    I really can't believe that I am debating the roasting skills of somebody who is running for president.:eek:
     
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  15. peleincubus

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    I should have said and a Democrat in Texas. And what I mean by that is say 50% of electoral votes goes to winner. And then the remaking 50% is split along with the voting percentages. Or something to that extent. I don’t think a president should be elected on a total of popular vote. But they shouldn’t have the same exact states in play every term Ohio Florida etc.
     
  16. peleincubus

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    I respect Rogan’s opinion to an extent because most of my political views aline with his. Including gun rights and other social issues. But people endorsing someone means barely anything to me. Just as advertising doesn’t work on me either. It actually makes me want to by your product less lol
     
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  17. ThatBoyNick

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    Uhh... he was able to win the PRESIDENCY by roasting people, and you know what? He might win a 2nd term doing it too.

    It's because you debate and take a reactionary stance against nearly everything, even things you haven't thought over. Pretend Trump isn't a roast master, a great performer, pretend that's not how he won over supporters, pretend his populism didn't win over supporters, pretend the corruption of the establishment left didn't win him his election. He will get re-elected, we will get more future Trumps. People need to start thinking about what got Trump elected instead of just being focused on being reactionary and defensive against everything Trump.
     
  18. Os Trigonum

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    he's right you know copy.jpg
     
  19. ThatBoyNick

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    Yeah I'm not even talking about his political stances.

    Joe is a professional comedian, Tom Papa is a professional comedian, they are two of the most famous, funniest comedians out. They know comedy, they know roasters, they know performing for an audience, they recognize what skills Trump is using to his advantage.
     
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  20. rocketsjudoka

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    I agree. It’s why I started the thread of “questions from a Trump supporter.” It’s also why I keep in saying we need to win the Suburbs and make inroads into rural areas.
     
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