That's equivalent to telling someone if they don't want Google to dominate, start their own search engine. Or telling someone to start their own oil company if they don't like Standard Oil.
This whining from Bernie supporters is hilarious. Here's what happened. In a 6 candidate field, Bernie was on track to win a plurality of the delegates while the rest of the field would account for 60% of the delegates. This was somehow considered "fair and democratic" if Bernie would become the nominee while losing 50-60% of the votes. (Same people think it's undemocratic that Trump is president when he didn't win the popular vote?) In South Carolina, black voters slapped the **** out of the Democratic party's mouth after they had hemmed and hawed for months about who to support and said "We know Joe." That resounding victory caused two candidates to say "Yeah, we can't win, let's support someone close to us in ideology." Now you have Bernie supporters saying this isn't "fair" somehow. This is totally ridiculous. Basically you Bernie fans want to run a race where your opponent has his legs tied to two other people and then brag that you were faster. Nothing that is happening is unfair to this point. Candidates accurately assessed that they could not win so they dropped out. If Bernie can't win the contest without it being a fractured field, then how in the world can you justify claiming he should be the nominee in a "fair and democratic" process?
It's gonna start being a drag to his campaign even his surrogates are doing it on TV. Bernie is also doing it with the establishment rhetoric in his rallies, IMO this is not a good strategy when you need to add supporters outside his base. Just because you are not a Bernie supporter does not mean you are the Billionaire class or elite and the mainstream which most voters are, do not like the evil connotation of that word.
Joe exposes himself over and over and you all know it. Bernie is a very kind man and at worst might allude to the unfairness of asking for more and more medical records from him,only. That is why so many polls show him to be the most popular Senator. The problem is that Trump will be merciless and it will be pitiful to see Joe melt down and Trump to rub his face in it.
Exactly. It's outrageous. I can't help but lol at the idea that MSNBC has been propping up Joe Biden. That is a comment made by somehow who is seeing clips online posted by Bernie Bois. He has been DRAGGED on MSNBC for a dying campaign. Before South Carolina they were talking about whether he would drop out the day after the election because it looked like it might be close. They've played all of his gaffes. Their guests (not campaign surrogates) are almost all from VERY left leaning organizations. Their "man on the street" stuff in South Carolina was overwhelmingly suggesting that the black vote would be more evenly divided than expected. You guys (Bernie Bois) are just seeing what you want to see because of your victim complex
Well this isn't really the complaint I had. So I guess you aren't reffering to men my complaints is the DNC party leaders placing their thumbs on the scales having a very obvious preference. It's pretty ironic that when the narrative is that "Bernie Bros" are aggressive and hurl insults, this thread shows how willing moderate candidate supporters are willing to insult and belittle people who support Bernie.
Yup. I would assume the party chairs and leaders would be neutral. At least Obama understands that. It's obvious the likes of Debbie and Perez and their preferences. It's pretty rational for a group of supporters of a candidate to question buses when the people in charge of the primary election process are openly in favor of not wanting their candidate.
Running for President isn't supposed to be *easy*. The Democratic Party was built over generations to have a big enough infrastructure, resources, and loyal supporters to be able to compete for the Presidency in every cycle. All of that effort was put into not being a 3rd party. Bernie wants to use that vessel and all its resources, despite never contributing to or be a part of it, and openly criticizing it. Why do you think it's surprising or wrong that people who have put in time/effort/money to do that would fight back? Bernie can run as a 3rd party or he could join and be a part of the Democratic Party. If he wants to try to thread the needle as he's doing, that's fine - but he's going to be at a disadvantage. It's not the media or the DNC or anyone's fault but his own. Those are choices he made. No different than what Bloomberg is facing.
Obama isn't being neutral because he thinks it's wrong to endorse. He has to save his ammunition. The party chair has stayed neutral by the way not that it would matter if he endorsed as he has zero clout with anyone.
The party establishment prefers Bloomberg over Bernie. This isn't out of principle. It's out of knowing which candidates are going to more likely have them maintain their clout and be appointed to high positions in the presidential administration. The long time DNC party establishment leaders know that Bloomberg relative to Bernie will maintain the status quo and allow them to keep their clout. The DNC establishment fears being replaced by more progressive newcomers and losing clout in the party and not having as much access in a hypothetical Bernie administration than a Bloomberg administration. Let's not pretend their desire to have "anyone but Bernie" is out of altruism. It's out of a desire to maintain power.
You have zero proof of this. Who are these "party establishment leaders" you are even talking about? This is more Bernie conspiracy stuff. This is identical to Trumpism. Anyone who is against me is part of an establishment that is really just trying to keep their power!
Dude, even people who hate Bernie here readily admit the DNC leadership doesn't like Bernie. This is purely basic human nature. A group of people who have immense clout want to maintain that clout. Someone like Perez knows he looses influence of the party is taken over by Bernie and his supporters. Stop accusing people of being Trump supporter like the moment you disagree with them.
https://democrats.org/who-we-are/leadership-2-2/ I'm pretty confident all of them are in the camp of "anyone but Bernie" in the primaries.
You do know that Debbie is not with the DNC anymore right? Has Perez said anything in support of anybody?
Do they not like Bernie because they lose "clout" or because they lose elections? I don't dispute that people in the party don't want Bernie as their nominee, I just don't think that's fair or unfair, it's normal. People have opinions. The Texas democrats sent up major warning shots that they didn't think they could win the seats they were targeting if Bernie was at the top of their ticket. These aren't some "establishment" boogeyman, these are real democrats trying to win real elections. This isn't some conspiracy about "status quo."
