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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by NewRoxFan, Feb 23, 2020.

  1. No Worries

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    If only the Covid-19 infected were illegals and the virus was their child, the Trump Administration would know what to do.
     
  2. heypartner

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    Just got up to pee.

    Are Trump and @bigtexxx still all panicky and hysterical about the hoaxes that are causing billionaires, banks and investment firms to sell their stocks.

    It’s terrible how the privileged Top 1% can be foiled by the Liberal Media like that.
     
  3. No Worries

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    The Top 1% are now calling for rate cuts, to solve the soon-to-be pandemic fallout.

    What a bunch of babies!
     
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  4. mick fry

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    Wow. I see the witches have gathered back around their cauldron.
     
  5. NewRoxFan

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    Meanwhile, trump supporters have to trump...

     
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  6. Amiga

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    Well, I think the admin probably didn't treat this as a top priority. That's too bad. China's crazy draconian response bought us a month. I thought we would have been more prepared but it looks like we weren't.

    I doubt that they don't trust the data from China/WHO. But there are still unknown (how exactly contagious - it ranges widely, what is the exact death rate - better idea with time and collection of massive data, is there re-infection, ...) but they have enough data to prep for. You work with what you have and adjust accordingly.

    The CDC must have some good reasons to decide to dev their own tests (I'm curious why) and they, unfortunately, failed to execute on it. They corrected it and mass testing will start very soon. We need data to "see" and then act on it to contain or mitigate (slow things down). No, there is nothing you can do to stop this, but you could slow it down as China and other countries have demonstrated. Of course, we can't repeat what China does, but we could try to repeat some of what S.Korea, Japan and other countries are doing to mitigate --- at least i hope the US response team is smart enough to learn from others and not do everything from scratch in their own way.

    Yes, I think they are concern about the economy, about the medical system holding up and about "runs" on masks (which has already happened before last week... this was one of those things they could have been prep for weeks ago) and other things. The "do not panic" is to clam the market and the people. There is a big difference between panicky and being prepare... we should all be prepared, but it's crazy how much panic there is... to some extend.

    The panic market sell-off seems pretty logical to me. Q1 disruption was huge and analysis has stated zero profit for the years. I thought the US market held it together as long as they could hoping that the containment would be successful but SKorea, Japan, Iran, Italy happen, and we came to our own conclusion that it was inevitable that it would spread here, disrupting business..- to what extent, don't know. Reality happens, risk factors in and it pops. If the market had sold off at a slower pace knowing the ever-increasing risk since the beg of this year, I think we still would be where we are today, but not this instant panicky pop. This of course sent a jolt down the admin and got their full attention. (a sign of again, lack of prep and being proactive but more of being reactive and just "wing it" style).

    The panic buying over the weekend probably has been great for some businesses. People are hoarding bottled water (i don't get this, don't you have running water at home?), non-perishable food, med, personal items, and masks (for weeks). That type of panic buying leaves others vulnerable to a lack of supply and causes other issues. It's crazy. Again, be prepared, but stay calm.

    In this particular San Antonio case, it's strange to me that there was a test pending at all if the procedure is to release the patient after recovery and 2 negative 24 hours apart (note that the problem with the earlier test was false positive, not false negative) - there again must be a reason. It would be nice, very nice if the gov explain these things and tell us what correction has been made to avoid repeated episodes.

    It's a more serious sign that the fed gov ignored the local government's oral and written requests for information. These people got to be coordinating and working together. Again, accountability, explaining, and correction needs to happen. (anecdotally, I heard from two military folks in San Ant that at least one in isolation left the base, went out to eat and came back --- that might be a false story, but if that's the case - how is that even allowed? do those people just not take this seriously?)
     
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  7. No Worries

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    No pandemic has ever treated a President more unfairly!

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  8. KingCheetah

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    Start spreading the fluuu...
     
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    assessment of media reporting on coronavirus:

    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/a...virus_panic_what_the_numbers_show_142539.html

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    Both online news and search interest show the same upward trajectory beginning Jan. 21, but news coverage increases faster and does not peak until Feb. 2, two full days after the searches peak. News mentions of masks surge again on Feb. 21, but it is not until two days later that searches experience a similar surge. In turn, television news mentions of mask sales do not increase dramatically until Feb. 26, the day after web searches began surging rapidly.

    Putting this all together, the graphs above suggest that the media’s wall-to-wall coverage of the coronavirus outbreak played a measurable role in driving public attention to the virus and likely worsening behaviors such as panic buying. The television media appear to have been late to the game, picking up on both the virus’ spread and the shortages of masks long after they were stories.

    Most importantly, the strong association of coronavirus coverage with Donald Trump in the U.S. and the economy globally suggests the outbreak is being contextualized as a political and economic story -- delivering a dose of panic in the process -- rather than a public health emergency that requires clinical and dispassionate reporting.​
     
  11. Two Sandwiches

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    When did we shift from the news as an outlet to inform and educate the public to making the news out to be some sort of monster because it educates and informs the public?
     
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  12. The Real Shady

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    Seems like media these days is more about inciting fear, panic, and outrage in order to drive up ratings. Just look how the national media has gone after the Astros this offseason.

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  13. MojoMan

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    Kind of sad and telling that retrumplicans can only resort to cartoons when it comes to the current administrations response to this health emergency.
     
  15. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Maybe also hand washing and understanding what symptoms to look for.

    I'm not a media apologist. As always, they are just trying to provoke emotional reactions for continued clicking/viewing. It has good (hand washing) and bad (mask buying, general idiocy/hoarding) effects.
     
  16. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I honestly have not that much criticism of Trump specifically. We've been kind of ignoring and underfunding public health for a long time. Let's save people tax money and see how razor thin our medical safety net can get. Well, okay, let's see how that works out for us.

    Certainly, the anti-science, anti-competence current administration is not helping. But I don't think they're the driver for our lack of preparedness.
     
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  17. HTM

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    I keep seeing articles that say you shouldn't buy those masks (I haven't bought any) and they say, ""They [masks] are NOT effective in preventing general public from catching #Coronavirus, but if healthcare providers can’t get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk!"" .... those seem like contradictory statements... so they are effective at preventing healthcare workers from getting sick but not the general public? Like, I get healthcare workers should be the priority and regular people buying them may not be an efficient use of resources but to say its ineffective for the general population strikes me as disingenuous.
     
  18. NewRoxFan

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    A scapegoat has been identified...

     
  19. pirc1

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    When does he get the tweet "You are fired!" ?
     
  20. REEKO_HTOWN

    REEKO_HTOWN I'm Rich Biiiiaaatch!

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    Funny because the Americans dying are the GOP demo lol.
     

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