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Pete Buttigieg appreaciation thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ThatBoyNick, Mar 1, 2020.

  1. Amiga

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    Well, that 1st pic didn't show correctly.

    Here is the article that show his supporters mostly consider Warren and Biden.

    https://projects.economist.com/democratic-primaries-2020/
     
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  2. Deckard

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    I disagree. Biden wasn't going to win Iowa. His organization there just wasn't that good. Bernie didn't do that well in New Hampshire, although he tried to spin it that way. Pete hurt him. At that point, Biden was swinging towards South Carolina, a good move on his part.

    Warren isn't seen as a moderate. She had a chance of moving in that direction at one time, which would have helped her, in my opinion. Instead, she moved to the left and co-opted Bernie's positions. That put her competing against him, and why would his "base" swing towards her when they could support the "real thing?" A big mistake on her part, in my opinion.

    People keep forgetting that the idea is to beat trump and win the freakin' election. The majority of Americans, regardless of what Sanders or Warren or I think, are moderate. Moderate Democrats, moderate independents, even some moderate Republicans. That's who Democrats are going to need to get on their side if they are going to win in November, in my opinion, win the House again, take the Senate.

    When Bernie went on 60 Minutes and stupidly made his comment about Castro's "reforms" in Cuba, I couldn't believe it. A lot of "middle of the road" people, the people we need, watch that program, or they hear about it by word of mouth. It was like Bernie forgot all about winning Florida. Excuse me, but I thought Florida was in play.
     
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  3. Clutch City1993

    Clutch City1993 Bury Me In The H

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    Man f*** Florida. Ppl dont realize that if Bernie would have backtracked on Castro on 60 mins, his rivals would have dug up old quotes. The man is honest. The man is consistent. Even better, his supporters are smart enough to see through the media spins.
     
  4. Deckard

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    I'm so impressed.
     
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  5. Amiga

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    I see what you are saying now. I was thinking going forward... Super Tuesday and onward.
     
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  6. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    Aren't t Warren and Bernie running in the same lane
     
  7. TheFreak

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    Him dropping out shows that he would make a good president. He shows that he’s pragmatic in a way that Amy, Warren, and maybe even Bloomberg obviously aren’t.
     
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  8. Commodore

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    Pete had zero black support, and the media was afraid to say why
     
  9. Amiga

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    Warren has support from those with college edu. Pete also. Not so much for Bernie.
     
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  10. Amiga

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    It was said from day 1.
     
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  11. pgabriel

    pgabriel Educated Negro

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    You maybe right. Homosexuality has come a long way in the black community but it has far to go
     
  12. joshuaao

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    yep there wasn’t a real path forward for him. If he stayed in the race, he’d push other candidates under viability and the nom would go to Sanders.



    Think Amy stays to win Minnesota. No idea with Warren.
     
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    Pete Buttigieg is hosting Jimmy Kimmel.
     
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  14. baller4life315

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    Still curious what deal he made to drop out.

    Amy is an actual candidate so her deal is very obvious: VP or AG. Things a real candidate would consider.

    What does Pete stand to gain dropping out and endorsing Biden? Does Pete get a HUD level position?
     
  15. Major

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    There was no reason to stay in - he was going to get his ass kicked on Super Tuesday, unfortunately.

    Very unlikely - HUD is not a stepping stone to anything. It's a dead-end job. Plus it doesn't use any of his skill set. He'll likely get something with an international flavor - Sec of State (may be pushing it), UN Ambassador, etc. Those are high-profile stepping stones to future roles and fit what he brings to the table.
     
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    That's weird since Pete's politics are much closer to Biden and Bloomberg than Sanders. Sanders is extreme.
     
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    He could get secretary of commerce, labor, etc.
     
  18. Major

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    The idea would have been that Pete is an "outsider" and Biden is an "insider". Nevermind that Bernie has been in DC for decades - he's also an outsider somehow. But that said, his claim proved completely untrue. Basically everyone's supporters went to Biden - even Warren's.
     
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  19. Major

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    All of those are dead end positions. Can you think of anyone from previous administrations that were Sec of Commerce/Labor/HUD/etc that were ever relevant again? State, Defense, Treasury are really the "big 3", and then high profile international posts like UN Ambassador, which seems most likely.

    Besides, Pete has no particular unique expertise in commerce, labor, HUD, etc. His strength is in his political philsophy and style, building bridges/etc. Those are foreign relations related jobs.
     
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  20. ThatBoyNick

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    Like I said, I don't think the majority of people follow politics that closely, but clearly, in hindsight, Pete endorsing Biden, all of Bidens momentum, Sanders didn't end up getting any of Petes supporters.

    I don't think Sanders is extreme, but that's another topic.
     

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