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[OFFICIAL] Bernie Sanders for President thread

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. Corrosion

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    Sanders gets the nom I'm voting for Dumpster.

    Sorry , NOT sorry.
     
  2. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Good for you.
     
  3. CometsWin

    CometsWin Breaker Breaker One Nine

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    Is this the math that works all around the world but doesn't work here? It's mystery math.

    It honestly appears you don't know what GDP is. It's a common Republican faux paus to disregard the government as a sector of the economy.
     
  4. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    meh, just stay home. You don’t want to explain to your kids how you voted for the cult leader crook.
     
  5. Corrosion

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  6. CometsWin

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    Posting memes, photoshops, cartoons, and youtube videos... the true gauge of a Trumpanzee. Nicely done!
     
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  7. dachuda86

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    Ask him how many communists work with him.
     
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  8. dachuda86

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    Easy there... this is the internet.. you chose to come here
     
  9. ThatBoyNick

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    Do you think it's possible to have communism without state / communal control over the means of production? Would you say mixed economies that focus on social programs, welfare, and unionization / collective bargaining are communist regimes?
     
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    The short answer is no.
     
  11. ThatBoyNick

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    Okay, then Bernie isn't a communist (or socialist despite the self-imposed democratic socialist label) and you should probably quit inferring that he and his supporters are. What Bernie supports, by policy and rhetoric, is a social democracy, and a mixed economy.

    And I agree with you, it's by definition impossible to have communism or socialism without state/communal control of the means of production. It's like saying you can have capitalism without private ownership. It just not possible.
     
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  12. dachuda86

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    I find that communists tend to support him. This is not some secret. And he flirts with communism and socialism too often for my comfort man. You vote for him all you want. Best of luck if he is your pick.
     
  13. Outlier

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    Im uneducated. What is so wrong with communism? In laymans terms please
     
  14. Buck Turgidson

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    Outside of the genocidal murder that is necessary to implement it, there's nothing wrong with communism at all.
     
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    Why is genocidal murder necessary to implement it? Sounds like a hyperbole we would ever reach that point...
     
  16. dachuda86

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    People like to own things.

    Also the implementation requires a demonization of a group or groups to mobilize the violence needed to take over everything. These are death tolls directly related to communism but likely underestimates. Communism uses a nice face to sell its ideology but is nothing more than a coat of sugar to hide the poison within. Dreams of utopia are too good to be true. Be wary of someone promising you they will fix everything... left or right.

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    From the Democratic Socialist own website :

    https://www.dsausa.org/about-us/what-is-democratic-socialism/
    They say they know in the "short term" they can't eliminate private corporations??? That implies that the long term goal indeed is to eliminate private corporations. In other works so called "Democratic Socialism" is really just plain old socialism they just realize it will take longer to implement. The plan appears to be to regulate and tax businesses to death before the government taking full control.
     
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    Bernie doesn't make the laws congress does. I don't think he is going to able get many things passed unless he wants to be like trump and just not care about the law.
     
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    What's going to end up happening here? The DNC knows that Bernie won't beat Trump because so many democrats will simply stay home (many moderates, fiscal conservatives, Christians, blacks). Will there be a consolidation play among Bloomberg, Biden, Pete and Klob's voters? Them banding together likely is the only path to keep Bernie from getting it.
     

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