In the CNN article it says here have been hundreds of harrassing tweets and other messages including from Sanders' speechwriter David Sirota, who CNN notes has deleted most of his tweets. CNN also cites messages that say: "Three days after the endorsement, a WFP spokeswoman tweeted a screenshot of one message that wished she and her colleagues would "all get cancer you are f**king trash." She also said they received private messages saying "eat sh*t and die" and "drop dead dumb c*nts. ... For example, when health care activist Ady Barkan, who has A.L.S., endorsed Warren in November, he was deluged with negativity from members of the Sanders crowd, some of whom accused him of selling out or being so affected by his disease that someone else must have made the endorsement decision for him. Sanders tweeted support for Barkan amidst the outrage. In the case of the Working Families Party's Warren endorsement, the organization's staffers openly complained that they had been threatened. More than 100 African American leaders then signed a letter that said the party's leadership had been attacked by self-identified Sanders supporters with words including "Uncle Tom" and "slave." CNN did also point out that other campaign supporters have engaged in online harrassment but pointed out: "It's clear that social media is notoriously a hotbed of controversial comments. Across the political spectrum, posts ranging from witty snark to harassment and abuse can be found by any candidate's supporters. Speaking to this reality, some digital media experts say the level of hostility in pockets of Sanders' online following outweighs that within the social media circles of his Democratic rivals."
Bernie has fervent supporters and they say all kinds of off the wall sh*t on Twitter and Facebook. But ok, let's not hold him completely accountable for loud and random voices on the web. However, we should call him out for the behavior of his surrogates and campaign staff. Bernie gives surrogates like Nina Turner free reign to throw red meat at his base. Sanders' campaign is predicated, in part, in enflaming the anger that many Americans have with the status quo. Anything but a revolution is untenable, and anyone in the way is the enemy. Look at the vitriol of Rose Twitter against any other candidate, the proliferation of conspiracy theories in response any perceived slight against Bernie. We can be angry about the systemic problems that our country is facing, but you can't push everyone else away if you are actually going to make the institutional changes that our country needs.
We should hold candidates accountable for the rhetoric of their surrogates and campaign staff. And Bernie has done a very poor job of checking their inflammatory language.
Oh wow, how is criticizing Biden for his "comprising" with outspoken segregationists any worse than labeling Bernie as mysoginist by the Warren camp? That is normal primary banter. To think that's egregious and "aggressively violent" is sad.
Can you show me a link to the data from these experts? CNN obviously cited and linked a source, something they teach you in high school and undergrad. I'm confident of it because it's a proffesional news organization full of educated professionals. Again, I'm not going to scour the twitterverse for angry tweets from Biden or Warren supporters. CNN found some for Bernie and are pushing a narrative with no citation of data. It's also a very clear indication of bias. For example, right wing sources spam only videos and angry tweets of "sjw warriors" especially on YouTube. Supporters of said narrative that "SJWs are out of control" have curated content from various social media sources and YouTube that spams this narrative where they only see one side of the spectrum where they believe that it's some grand systemic problem. It's confirmation bias. You are actively trying to seek out angry tweets. You'll find them.
Ok, both Warren and Sanders' camps have gone too far in their attacks on opponents. But Sanders' online fan base is extremely aggressive. It's not just one or two lone wolves. You have surrogates like Shaun King RTing and amplifying divisive rhetoric. I don't understand how you can be so dismissive of not only the testimonials in the NYT and CNN articles linked above, but the actual experiences of fellow posters on this board. You are being obtuse if you don't see how Bernie's surrogates rile up their base by taking pot shots at competitors and implying that the system is rigged.
Testimonials of angry tweets isn't journalism. Like I said before, on social media there is a death threat for every opinion held in existence. Pot shot at competitors such as saying "Bernie has accomplished nothing". To love in an alternate reality where establishment candidates never took pot shots at Bernie is one delusional bubble you live in.
Did you read the whole article? It cites Ben Decker a media consultant who has researched this. “Among unofficial Facebook pages created by supporters of Democratic candidates, Sanders also leads with 2.5 million followers and roughly 58,000 posts between November and January, more than that of all other Democratic candidates combined, according to data Decker pulled from CrowdTangle, an analytics company owned by Facebook. "Anytime you have far greater numbers, you have far greater potential for harm," said Decker, who noted he has observed "us-versus-them" narratives within some Sanders groups that he believes amplify hostility. "Anyone who fits into that range of targets is anyone who really questions the ideals of the Bernie support community." Multiple staffers of rival Democratic campaigns -- none of whom were authorized by their campaigns to speak on the record -- argue that trends of bullying within Sanders' online base spring not only from the scale of his social media following but also the tone of his campaign.” The article has already answered the questions you raise while at the same time you refuse to provide any evidence for your own contentions. Honestly for someone who has argued for the importance of hearing all voices and listening to evidence you seem quite dismissive of the evidence that counters your view. Your falling back into the frequent argument makes by the right of MSM bias rather than providing a substantial counter argument.
It is very fair to bring up the lack of signature legislation during Bernie's time in the Senate. He is asking us to put faith in his ability to pass the most comprehensive healthcare reform in American history, without any proof he can build consensus to get such legislation passed. Not even 1/3 of Democratic senators support his M4A plan - it is a nonstarter in purple and red parts of the country. He is not even willing to get rid of the filibuster! Bernie is promising us the world and it's fair to ask for the roadmap to get there. As for the more extreme members of his base, it's far more than just tweets my friend: Death threats, phone calls Other forms of intimidation There is a visceral anger at the state of our country. Bernie is using that anger to fuel his campaign. It's fine to be passionate about reforming a broken system to get to the outcomes that we all want - access to quality healthcare for all Americans, the protection of minority rights, sensible gun reform, true access to higher education. But many of his supporters take it too far. They see the fight itself as most important, instead of the desired outcome
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-medical-records-promis_n_5e415519c5b6f1f57f158f7d Bernie Sanders Walks Back Promise To Release ‘Comprehensive’ Medical Records The 78-year-old Democratic presidential hopeful said in September that he would “absolutely” release his medical records ahead of the presidential primary season, which kicked off with the Iowa caucuses last week. “The American people have the right to know whether the person they’re going to be voting for for president is healthy,” Sanders said at the time. “And we will certainly release our medical records ... before the first votes are cast.” Sanders echoed his vow a few weeks after his Oct. 1 heart attack, telling The Associated Press that he planned to release “comprehensive” medical records by the end of the year. He released three brief letters from his doctors ― one primary care physician and two cardiologists ― in December that declared he was in “good health currently,” but he has not released his full medical records. “Meet The Press” host Chuck Todd asked Sanders on Sunday whether voters should be able to see his full medical records before Super Tuesday, which is on March 3. “We have released as much documentation I think as any other candidate,” Sanders said. But some of his fellow Democratic presidential contenders have released more detailed summaries of their records and, in some cases, results from various medical tests and procedures. Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) was the first Democratic presidential candidate to release personal medical records. The documents provided by her campaign in early December included a doctor’s note, which declared the candidate in “excellent health,” as well as a two-page hematology report and a three-page chemistry report. Former Vice President Joe Biden also released a doctor’s report in December, which outlined his surgical history and his current medical conditions. When Sanders pushed back on releasing additional medical records Sunday, Todd noted that he’s the only candidate who has had a heart attack. “Well, look ... no other candidate is doing four or five events a day running all over this country,” Sanders replied. Sanders, of course, isn’t the only candidate with a busy schedule on the campaign trail. Most of his rivals are participating in several events each day. When asked what changes his doctors had recommended following his heart attack, Sanders said he has been told walk and sleep more. “I am trying to walk a little bit more, but the schedule doesn’t allow me,” he said. “We’re trying to sleep a little bit better. Sometimes that’s hard. But I’m feeling great.”
Name one poster who has called Bernie supporters misogynist? I have not seen it. You yourself have called posters boomers for disagreeing with you which is disparaging. Dreamshook and That boy Knick are certainly aggressive as well as Glynch. And yes the Bernie Bros do have trump supporter like tendencies, you are illustrating that by ignoring all the salient points in the articles and using some whataboutism. Also so quick to jump to conspiracy theories and victimhood.
The twitter replies are not random they are a pattern and its not just one or 2 people on twitter and the article pointed this out.
Dude I'm not going to scour Twitter comments. This is merely the media hunting for Twitter comments from one particular group on a social media platform rife with bots and foreign troll farms with zero analysis on where these comments originated from and posting articles on them. I care about the rhetoric coming out of the actual candidates. Hence why I'm critical of Trump and his base because his rhetoric calls for it and it's obvious his base loves that type of rhetoric. I'm sorry to tell you this but Twitter comments ain't news. The establishment candidates also need to be careful of labeling people who feel disaffected by the current undue corporate influence on our legislative process with relatively stagnant wages while corporations continuously bank in record profits as extremists. And the media is very willing to label Bernie supporters as mysoginist. You seriously don't think I can't find articles from mainstream editorials that paint that picture?
Of course it was Chuck Todd who would have asked this question in this bad faith manner. Todd knows that Bernie had a heart attack. The voters know that Bernie had a heart attack. Him asking the question in this way is just his self gloating that he has some question that his watchers will say "Chuck Todd GOT HIM." I honestly don't think it matters if Bernie, Biden, Warren, or Trump release their medical records. All of them except for Warren who is really sharp & looks very healthy for her age, are likely in great risk of dying in office. That is just the reality you are facing as a voter in voting for either of these three. If Bernie doesn't release his medical records then I think it just gives people like Chuck Todd stupid talking points, but I really don't think this is an issue the voters in this case really know about. Everyone who votes for Trump knows he's not all there mentally, is obese at an old age, and probably has mini strokes occasionally but they don't care because he's still Trump at the moment and they are voting in the moment and voting for the cult of Trump or Trumpism more than they are voting for him because they think he'll be around for 30 years.
You are the one making claims about what other campaigns are doin so yeah you should back up your claims. You claimed that posters here have said Sanders was misogynist, which ones? I get it you don't really want to have this conversation you just want to tell us how we are wrong about Sanders and the media is just out to get him. So is it the media or is it editorials?
