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State of the Union Thread 2.4.2020

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Astrodome, Feb 4, 2020.

  1. da_juice

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    Decorum doesnt fuxkimg matter with these people.

    The worst thing the Democratic party ever did waa disavow rhe 2nd Amendment
    ..when the restrictions started with God Reagan imposing it on Blacks.

    Their calls for civility are calls for us to back down.

    The democratic party left me socially and fiscally in my 20s.

    The GOP left me the moment the so called small govt ppl worship a Gos Emperor business man who exists to enrich himself gets to stay in power gets to.

    I maybe a naive 20 something; but I really really did believe that this country could truly BE what its intended to be. Where everyome - no matter your background or faith or whatever- can come here and be a citizem amd a member of society so long as you believe we're all endowed, as the DOI, says that we have certain inalienable rights.

    I realize thats not what most of this country belives
     
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  2. TheresTheDagger

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    Lets hope those families see it the same way. I'm skeptical. But good job defending the indefensible. Watch out, someone might accuse you of being Trumplike.

    Yes they were and were wrong. Unlike you, I won't defend the indefensible.

    Again, you have no ground here to attack the decorum of another politician when you routinely EVERY DAY bootlike for the most divisive party in American history who explicitly offends and insults every sector of American Life that disagrees with them.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Show me a foil on the Democratic side in terms of major presidential candidates that labels any negative news coverage of him or her as "enemy of the people". Show me an example of a Democrat candidate asking to ban immigration of an entire religous group as a campaign promise. Show me an example of a major Democrat nominee who outright insults regions of the country that don't align with their views to the point of calling them "shitholes" and OPENLY advocating punishing them by dumping illegal immigrants into their city or refusing to aid in massive wild fires. Show me a major candidate who has a lame insult nickname for every rival politican they face.

    Your attempt at gaslighting sucks. You know Trump's divisiveness is unrivaled.
     
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  4. TheresTheDagger

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    Right, so to you Trump ALONE sets the example and Pelosi can do whatever the hell she wants because ORANGE MAN BAD.

    The whole world saw it Jay. Dismiss it as a "Lame talking point" but people saw her petty, spiteful and hurtful act. Not everyone wants to lick Pelosi's ass

    Completely excuse what? Show me ONE COMMENT here where I excuse behavior that disrespects dead americans. Until then, I'll simply call you a lying sack of crap.

    That's about the dumbest thing I've read today.

    This also is BULLSHIT. I've called out Trump before here MULTIPLE times. Only one person in this conversation attempts to defend bad behavior and it ain't me.

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    I think the fact that you're so TDS infected you have lost all ability to reason rationally about the behavior of others. Wow. Just wow.
     
  5. TheresTheDagger

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    Everything you post here sucks. You know the Democrat party's divisiveness is unrivaled.
     
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  6. JayGoogle

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    Bolding that part because that's always what it is.

    If you want respect, give it. Trump doesn't.

    I will admit there was some divide during Obama's term, personally, I don't think much of that was his fault. I understand that his policies weren't popular on the right but he never insulted other politicians in public like Trump does or goes after groups of people call the media the enemy, etc etc etc...I think people like Limbaugh helped with that divide during Obama's term more than Obama...and Trump just gave this man a medal.

    Think about that.

    Trump gave a medal to a guy whose said...

    “Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

    and

    “The NAACP should have riot rehearsal. They should get a liquor store and practice robberies.”

    and

    “They’re 12 percent of the population. Who the hell cares?”

    And there's literally more...this is the guy Trump decided to honor today.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    Well then.. Provide examples that rival Trump divisiveness. And to be fair, you have to find people of similar clout like Obama and not a random Twitter account from a random stranger with no clout that says mean things.

    I remember having these conversations about divisiveness and Obama before and the worst examples you or another poster who claimed Obama was divisive could come up with was him saying a single cop was dumb for arresting a black proffesor and that he said someone like Trayvon Martin could have been his son.

    Show me something juicy. Like did he ever call Kentucky a giant meth den? Something spicy like that which Trump does on a daily basis.

    Show me dem reciepts.
     
  8. B-Bob

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    I agree with you a lot, and I know you’re mad, but both of those statements are false.
     
  9. da_juice

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    Sounds like you need a safe space
     
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  10. JayGoogle

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    Nope, to get the respect you give it.

    Trump disrespected Pelosi so she disrespected him back.


    The whole world saw her rip up papers, you're trying to psycho-analyze her actions and get into her head to advance a talking point.

    Did you not see Pelosi stand and applaud those moments or no?

    Does Trump's actions set an example for other politicians?

    Ok...I honestly don't care if you think it was dumb or not, it's irrelevant to the point. Trump doesn't give respect so no one should expect him to be given respect.

    Like I said, this man honored someone who got on radio and said racist things about the previous president.

    Reread what I've said and where did I say YOU?

    I referred to Nikki Haley, not you, you jumped in because I dared say something about the president. I was responding to the TWEET in your post.

    I'm not the irrational one here, you jumped on me because I dare to suggest that the Presidents actions cause a reaction, it seems you got so triggered you didn't even realize I was referring to Nikki Haley and not you, I quoted your post since your post had the tweet.
     
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    Definitely. He's in that stage of interest banter grief where he essentially says "I know you are but what am I".
     
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    I tend to get that way when the TDS is so overwhelming that this guy can't even call out Pelosi's appalling behavior tonight. As if only Trump and his supporters are the horrible people but don't DARE criticize Saint Nancy.

    It's sickening. And I stand by what I wrote about him. .
     
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    Show me the reciepts of you showing as much vigor denouncing Trump's attacks on the Khan family or the other 1000 divisive things he does.
     
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    You think Republicans didn't hate Obama just as much? The difference is the GOP are adults while Democrats are children. Way to lose all the moderate voters Nancy. Most of America just said WTF. Only die hard partisan hacks are even attempting to defend this.
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    It was very adult like for the GOP to nominate a man who doesn't know the difference between life and health insurance as their choice to manage the world's largest bureaucracy and labels himself a very stable genius.
     
  16. JayGoogle

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    No, the difference is Obama showed the other side respect. He never insulted another politician in the manner Trump has, he never insulted a veteran or their family, he never insulted a city or a group of people.

    Obama was always respectful...also, the current President made up a lie that he wasn't born in the USA...

    I also hate when people say "Most of America..." or "The American people..." without poll numbers. You pulled that right out of your behind. How do you know how moderates feel about her ripping up the paper?
     
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  17. fchowd0311

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    I'm sure Obama has occasionally made snide remarks regarding other politicians but ya, he has never in such an obtuse manner insulted so many people as much as Trump has. Not even in the same ballpark or stratosphere.
     
  18. da_juice

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    I appreciate the job youre trying to do but you're wasting youre time with these ****ing people.

    They want a civil war.

    Ive been told it explicitly since I was 7 or 8 yeara old and implicitly since I was 12.

    IDGAF if I'm banned from this entire forum. I'm tired of being told to be civil and vote in elections that donf count when I have family members regularly threaten me with a civil war if a Democratic candidate wins.

    I'm way more than likely to off myself than do anything about it...because I can't buy a gun. Because I purposefully put myself on a list that makes me so I cannot.

    I still encourage every American who feels safe to buy one btw. I still encourage everyone to vote whether youre a tea partier or Trumper or socialist or whatever.

    My main difference being this:
    when I wanted to (and still want to (and hey feel free to circle jerk about that as a nother "dead commie" as my roommate said")) I didnt pick up a gun and shoot others. I didnt target, oh idk, Gabby Giffords fundraiser (or a GOP equipvalent). I didnt target a black church like Dylan Roof did. I didnt target a Unitarian Universalist Church like Jim David Adkinsson did because some right wing firebomb pundit suggested he do; that my generally mainstream Dad recommended to me- after I lost friends there.

    So yeah b**** all you want about Pelosi ripping up a paper or whatever the **** it was. IDGAF. Lets be honest; you guys are winning relection. But if youre gonna call out any party for circle jerking and ask for civility; you mfers (both current GOP and old school Southerners) set the course for where we are. And I cannot WAIT until the North (where Im from) cuts you non Texans off
     
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  19. TheresTheDagger

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    And what did those families do to earn Pelosi's disrespect?




    I have done no such thing. Why she did what she did doesn't interest me. Only that she did it.

    Who knows? What matters is she made sure we all saw her disrespectful act at the end.



    JHC. They're all supposedly ADULTS. I don't need to get my cues from another adult to understand what's right or wrong.

    For the THIRD TIME NOW....its wasn't about Trump you knucklehead. It was about those families.

    So because you think this, Pelosi gets a pass?

    Well, there's only 2 people in this conversation. Shouldn't be too hard to figure out why I thought you were referring to me.

    No, I jumped in because you made excuses for Pelosi's behavior based upon Trump's past behavior.

    We've had about 4-5 posts since then. In case you weren't aware, Nikki Haley hasn't been going back and forth with you.
     
  20. JayGoogle

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    Yeah, there are snide remarks here and there, usually related to policy, but he's never actually attacked conservatives as a group. He's never made it that Conservatives are enemies.

    But Trump has basically insulted every democrat in the presidential race. Saying Biden has a Low IQ and calling Warren 'Pocohantas'... I mean really. There is really no Obama equivalent to stuff like that.
     
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