I never started with the pee tape nobody ever took that serious and if they did nobody said it was an impeachable thing. The abuse inside the CIA, FBI and DOJ? Did you not read the IG report? If you go look at my past post I never wanted an impeachment to begin with, I knew it was a waste of time. And let me blow your mind with this I don't particularly think this is grounds for impeachment, censure yes but impeachment I am not sure of, I don't really like the precedent it sets. I really don't give a flying **** how you see things because I know you are being disingenuous and only want to troll folks. I mean really you are actually propping up Nunes? But hey who am I to judge how somebody gets their kicks. What are ya'll gonna do when the rabbit got the gun?
Ehh This actually went about as well as anyone could have expected for the Democrats. They were never going to have Trump removed from office, and once it was in the Senate, they really had little control of the outcome. However, they were fortunate of the Bolton revelations and they now can point out all of the Republican Senators that voted against witnesses and the majority of the American people believe that witnesses should have been called. The Democrats at this point are the winners on the whole impeachment situation, and it also kept the attention on the fact that Trump is corrupt rather than on other issues. Trump tried to work around that with the assassination of the Iranian general, but that has mostly died down. The election is a almost a year away, but Trump is weaker than he was at this point a year ago IMO and while I have always felt the Democrats would actually lose a seat or two in the Senate....... now they have a genuine chance to split or take control of the Senate if there is any additional fall out or scandals with the President. All of the embattled Republican Senators took some criticism through this whole process. Also, Democratic Senators like Manchin and Jones were able to avoid too much political fall out. The democrats should be more concerned about having morons like Bernie Sanders talking about banning fracking when areas like Pennsylvania were set to go democrat until Che' Sanders opened his mouth.
This and there is no wiggle room for Trump or the Republicans on this issue. It is something that will resonate with a lot of voters. It is a perfect bullet point to point out and bring up, and it will be brought up in the months leading up to senate elections.
I can say I believe precedent has been shown by past impeachments that it would have been expedited. As I said before , the last time a president used executive privilege to withhold evidence , it took the High Court just 70 odd days to render a unanimous decision compelling Nixon to comply. That case went directly to the High Court ... I would think in this instance , being time sensitive with a looming election , the same would occur. I will also go on record as saying I believe Biden should be drug thru the mud. He had that prosecutor removed because he was investigating Hunter / Barisma. He did exactly what the Dems impeached Trump for and boasted about it and we have it on tape - No hearsay - Straight from the horses mouth.
I asked about time to actual conviction though. Given the Mueller "failure", I am not sure either courts or the rest of lever holders would be willing to expedite anything. Nixon was a different time and a different case where foreign relations executive privelege wasn't concerned. Someone mentioned the WH counselor case too as a circumstantial evidence this would not necessarily get expedited treatment. If Biden is guilty of something nefarious, please please please just charge him and prove it in courts. You stink of partisanship with the assessment of Biden, I'm sorry to say. One guy is impeached and his own party agrees is guilty but Biden says he fought corruption in Ukraine and suddenly it's an acceptance of guilt of corruption. Yet no one officially censures him, let alone takes him to court. Hypocritical to the highest degree
I've given historical precedent for expedition .... You don't want to buy it , fine. Yeah , its a different time , we live in an age of instant information , this aint 1974 .... and we have an election on the horizon - All the more reason for the SCOTUS to put this at the top of the docket for the good of the country. Why , because I want both parties held to the same standard ? Yeah that's partisanship alright .... The evidence came right out of Joe Biden's mouth - You can try to spin that anywhicha way you want , it don't change the facts. I'm no Democrat nor am I Republican , I'm just a crazy indian who can see past the partisan BS that both sides are throwing at you because I haven't picked a side. Its pretty funny standing in the middle watching the sky fall ....
Why don't you explain away what Joe Biden say's in this video clip. Try to spin it .... when all's said and done the proof is right there for all of us to see. I really wish there was a video of Trump doing the same thing .... so we could all see it and those Senators could spin it for us somehow.
You seem to trust government to do the right thing in one case and you don't seem to trust the government in the other case. Like I said. This is hypocritical partisanship. Or maybe you are crazy like you say you are, in which case, ideally, you shouldn't vote and also preface all of your posts with "I am crazy" tag. No offense
We already have the facts about this, we know what happened, why it happened. You live in a fairy land.
Come on dude. Use some common sense here. What would make Biden's act of requesting the removal of Shokin, the former lead prosecutor in Ukraine, a abuse of power? If the removal was meant to benefit his son. The Ukranian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin was under investigation by the IMF and several other Western allies for corruption. He was in fact criticized for doing a superficial investigation of Burisma, the oil company Biden's son was a board member of and in fact FROZE the investigation into Burisma. A year later, the Obama administration, the IMF and several other European leaders advocated to press the Ukrainian government to force Shokin to resign. Biden was performing an action at the behest of the Obama administration, the IMF and many Western allied leaders to convince Ukraine of this which the administration was successful in. First, Biden was going against his own son's interest by advocating to remove a corrupt prosecutor who shut down the investigation of Burisma a entire year earlier and second, the IMF, and Western foreign powers couldn't give two ***** about Biden's son thus this was a policy advocated by the US and NATO nations. REPUBLICAN SENATORS wanted Victor Shokin removed. Biden's actions were in the interest of US offering policy, not against it for personal gain like Trump's actions when freezing military aid to Ukraine... You know the part that actually makes it illegal. Is Biden's son a beneficiary of rampant nepotism? Yes. Biden has little qualifications being a board member of an oil company. Is Nepotism illegal? Unfortunately no or else Ivanka "Give me those Chinese Trademakes because I'm the president's daughter" Trump and Jared "Middle East Peace Negotiator" Kushner would be indicted for the same charges. Also, apply Occam's Razor. Why would Biden be proud to openly admit to removing a corrupt prosector if it was for the purpose of protecting his son?
As an independent, not sure how you could with a straight face, say the Democrats won.......... Sorry, don't think anyone won with this mess, but the Democrats definitely didn't.
I don't understand what you are trying to point out in this clip. Did you mean to post a different Biden clip?
