ABSOLUTELY!!! Will go into it more below, but check out Booker's game this year. He's been INSANELY good... and only overshadowed by the fact that Luka has been amazing, Trae has been really good (though his team sucks), etc. My main issue is the draft pick LIKELY won't be that great. It could be a lotto pick if James is really meh the rest of the season. But he could equally go there and get them to the 8th seed. I'd ask for 2 firsts. Phoenix would say no, though... not sure people realize how good Booker has been this year. I'd do the deal anyway. Only say top 3 protection on the pick. Well... MDA would have to earn his contract? Offense would have to be something more than give it to a guy and get out of the way. I think the analysis is relatively clear. You don't have the same POTENTIAL upside, NEAR TERM, absent Booker getting better immediately. Cause at the end of the day, Harden is the best player. But it's a 23 year old all star averaging 27/4/6 on 63% TS%. To put that into perspective... Harden has only topped that TS% once in his career, his last year in OKC. Plus Oubre, who is a 24 year. As is: Russ/Rivers Booker/Gordon Oubre/McLemore Tucker/House Capela/Hartenstein It's a deeper lineup, probably better at defense, worse at offense, but more upside. But if the argument is that it doesn't work with Russ... GOOD NEWS. Russ, like CP3, imo, has done well to increase his potential trade value this year. Not b****ing. Constant effort. Last month+ of great efficiency. "Leading" Rockets team at the moment. He wouldn't bring back such a package, but some package that could be really nice, especially to a team that just REALLY needs a star like that. For example, send him to Minnesota for Dieng, Covington, Culver, this year's pick and another future first. Not a great trade back in terms of immediate value, but more pieces and good picks back. Move EG into the starting lineup. Or to Orlando, NYK or Chicago with similar mindset. You DEFINITELY eliminate any meaningful playoff run this year with that move, and my preference would be to keep Russ at that point, but you get the idea. On the whole, I don't think the moves make the team more likely, probabilistic-ally, to win a ring at the moment. But I don't think it makes them less likely much, if at all, there's probably better medium/long-term prospects, and its an interesting change of pace as a fan.
A front court of Bryant and Clarke would be literally a dream come true for us, guys are 22/23 and already proven contributors, both have still upside and can do pretty much everything on both sides of the court, they can score and shoot (the 3 too), they can pass a bit (especially Clarke), they can block shots and rebound, they are not timid for being a rookie and a guy on his second year, and they're cheap for at least three years so, yeah, literally perfect, but it's not happening, there's no way the Grizzlies trade Clarke unless they get back a star imo, and i'd say the same for Bryant, certainly the Rockets aren't getting them with Capela and two picks, maybe Bryant for Capela and picks, but i wouldn't bet on Washington doing that.
https://tradenba.com/trades/zaw4VkOQy smaller scale more realistic. We'd duck the luxury tax in this deal as well, but we'd need a subsequent move for another center.
I don’t think Heat would do either trade. Why get rid of Winslow for tucker or smart? Winslow has a better market than that.
Don’t care about the other teams. No way in hell Rockets do this. I’m confident in saying Rockets value the players we would be giving away more than any player we’re getting back. Not to mention the friendly contract we’d be giving up in PJ, having Capela locked up and having no capable starting center from this trade.
Anthony toliver for matching contract and / or 2nd round pick Yes MDA’s preferred age and can make 3’s Is he good? Prolly not ... might he actually get 10mpg and help give a break to PJ ... I’d say there’s a decent shot Edit. He’s already been traded this year in the Ariza deal ... I don’t think he can be moved again Can we buy low on saric ?
It's not even just about Winslow, why would they trade Nunn and Winslow for Tucker? That's obviously not happening, like Minnesota isn't going to trade for Capela, i know you could say "but they could play Capela at center and Towns at the 4 etc", that's not happening, Towns is a center in this league, he's not going to play the four to chase 6'7/8 guys on the perimeter.
TF said he couldn't envision a total rebuild like the Astros, he is rather clueless to what is coming down the freight train that is the Rocket's future. Sucks buying anything at the top of the market!
Bogdanovic isn't a realistic target imo, because he wants to start and get paid, both things aren't happening here. Overall, i'm not sure how many good (big) wings are out there available and worth multiple picks, not many i think, Oubre, Covington, Gordon...i can't think of other names right now. There're definitely other ones that would fit here available, i think about guys like Porter, Crowder, Aminu, Marcus Morris, maybe Winslow and Warren, but these guys for one thing or another shouldn't cost more than a 1st rounder and fillers at best imo, tbf i'd probably put Covington in this group too, i'd move two 1st rounders for Oubre or Gordon considering their age and upside, i wouldn't for Porter because of the contract, and i wouldn't for the other guys cause they're either not good enough (Crowder, Aminu, Morris) or already 30 (Covington, Morris). I like to think this might be a good moment to try to steal some young players with potential form teams that are in rebuilding and already filled of similar players in the same spots.
The Heat aren't going to give up an up-and-coming wing in Winslow and a really promising (and very team contract-friendly) young player in Nunn to get back a PJ Tucker. Even if they somehow got Capela, they wouldn't do it.
Would OKC take House and a 2nd for Nerlens? With the pie in the sky intention on dealing Clint for someone like Jaylen (I should probably stop going on about him..). Nerlens is no Clint that's for sure, but a poor mans Clint with a Butler in the making? I'ld be down for that..
agreed the problem with about half those guys you listen is they make more than 9/10 mil which means that we would have to use clint or PJ as a piece. We can combine , house , nene , and thabo/tyson for about 9/10 but after that we cannot match salary / I like looking at RFA's , and waht you are saying is a good idea too I was just looking at memphis. They have a young guy im somewhat interested in , Yuta Watanabe .. hes not even at the level that they want him on the NBA club at this point and they have other young guys that are more promising. We could prolly land him with a trade exception ? Im not saying hes good , but we need guys from 6'6-6'10 that have skill . Ideally we need them now, but we will need them in the future too. edit. In additon , Yuta is like a FU to china and the rockets now become Japan's team ?
Miami is not getting rid of Winslow & Nunn for Tucker. Miami would hang up quicker than you could propose the deal.
One thing that occurred to me: If Morey can find a way to overcome the financial constraints put on him by the salary cap and the unwillingness of the team's owner to spend, and somehow manage to send out pieces of this non-working puzzle to bring in pieces that slide into place and prove to be the missing ingredients... it may very well be the most impressive thing he's ever done as a GM. Acquiring Harden was impactful, but once Presti decided not to extend him, it was just a matter of pushing a pile of assets into the middle of the table to make the math work and let Presti try to save face, and doing it quickly before anyone else made a better offer. That situation was the perfect storm for a train robbery; Presti needed to get the deal done without holding up the season, and he needed to look decisive since he was sending out such a key player. THIS, however, would be mastermind-ish if it happens. Frankly, I'm not optimistic because I think Tilman's requirements the last couple of years, combined with a handful of questionable moves of his own, have left Morey with almost no wiggle room.
Yeah that's our problem, no salary to match big contracts so, guys like Oubre, Porter, Morris (who might still get bought out...and i would expect to end up in LA anyway lol), Gordon are out of our reach unless we deal Clint or PJ, but the others are so, who knows... As for the young player you mention here, tbh i don't know him, the guy i'm more interested in as today is Troy Brown of Washington, he isn't a big wing, in fact he's more a big guard, but he can easily play the 3 cause he's strong and athlethic enough for the spot, i think he's like 6'7 with a 7' wingspan. But measurements aside, i like him cause he's pretty versatile in his game, while still a bit raw, he can score and shoot, he can pass a bit, he rebound very well and has good potential as a defender. I don't really know if Washignton is open to give him up, probably not, but considering their starting 5 is pretty much set around Wall, Beal, Hachimura and Bryant, my guess is that with their lottery pick they'll draft a 3/4 to play next to Hachimura so, going forward i don't see Brown having a role there if not coming off the bench, which might be totally fine for them, but maybe they're open to deal him if they get a solid offer.
