Lol, post like this all you guys can resort to which is pretty sad. I support a candidate who is running on the policies I deeply care for, as everybody should. So, I'll actually reply to the two issues you brought up. I think Bernie's (along with Warrens) policies would do the most out of the candidates to help lower inequality, and I think Bernie's plans for green energy, new infrastructure, and environmental regulation / protection would also improve the air and water quality, so actually yea, his presidency really could help prevent cancer for people in the future, not to mention what medicare for all would do in terms of helping early detection, getting preventative care, and overall getting the timely care necessary for cancer patients without worry of bills. It's funny to hear you try to call people out on here for "thinking they have everything figured out", you're probably the most pretentious member of the D&D right now by a mile.
Pretentious? Thats rich coming you and the Bernie Bros. Ha? I admit I don't know all the answers or have a set in stone candidate I would vote for, I don't think you know what the meaning of the word is.
I learned how things worked after Hope and Change, you need the ability to be able to put your plan(s) in motion with the limited political capital given. I've been wary of populism, no matter how well intentioned, since 2008.
I think Obama bait and switched. His entire presidency was very moderate despite his original progressive campaign rhetoric, but I definitely understand where your coming from.
Obama was wildly popular; had the senate, the house and everyone eating out of his hand. "Limited political capital" is not the phrase I would use when talking about Obama. "Squandered potential" is more accurate.. Look at all the court appointments Obama left open. Look at how he handled Merrick Garland. Obama ran as a populist he was the establishment when he finally got into office.
This is my take as well, but I can understand the other angle of believing he was a progressive but was stonewalled into moderation. I don't however, see how that correlates to being a potential negative for Bernie, if anything, this belief should signal to people that Bernie could be very similar to Obama.
With a super majority in the House and Senate, Obama was allowed to be stonewalled because he was so thirsty for bipartisan support. Look at what the Republicans do when they get a majority anywhere in the legislature; Just a tiny bit of leverage, they start forcing all manner of evil bullsh*t through and then chuck the middle finger at the the Democrats. Obama could have ran through the republicans with all that wind in his sails in 2008. No conservative democrat would have been able to say or do anything because he was so wildly popular Democrats ALWAYS capitulate on every issue, every demand, doesn't matter if they have all the power, they cower to the Republicans like simps. Now Bernie is unwavering in his values and people are mad/afraid he won't compromise. Why should he?
2008 was truly a squandered opportunity by the Democratic party. Obama ran on a public healthcare option (which still seems like a radical change today even though it is mainstream popular) and was talked down to a version of Romneycare by his own party. Namely gutless Senate Democrats. I suppose we should be thankful we even got that out of it.... lord knows what the Democrats would have negotiated themselves down to if Obama hadn't been championing the PO to begin with. Ironically, despite pulling the public option over fears of an electoral backlash, Democrats still got utterly destroyed in 2010 anyway because of course they did. The teabagger nutcases were always going to come crawling out of the woodwork (now supercharged by the bailouts) to protest vote against Obama the Kenyan Mooslim Zombie Vampire Communist no matter what, public option or not.
What makes things even more frustrating: Republicans whined and cried to get the PO taken out. Obama and the Dems "compromised" and didn't get one Republican vote when it came time to pass the bill. Not one. Republicans went on a fear campaign against something that improved the lives of the people they represented and it worked because Democrats made no case for the bill at all.. I still remember people not realizing Obamacare and the Affordable Care Act are the same thing. They probably still don't.
Dems lost the House in 2010 and then the Senate in 2012. In reality, after Nov 2010 there was no bipartisanship with the most seriously acute effects of 2007/2008 in the rear view mirror. Obama used up his political capital on ACA, which in hindsight he should have used on infrastructure/stimulus. The eventually stimulus package that came was well short due to the hysterics of "austerity". Who has Bernie's back in Congress to help push his agenda? Like Obama, Bernie will get two years to get his signature legislation passed and it's success or lack of will determine the midterms. This is chess, not checkers.
It was Dems who needed other Dems to compromise, which got the PO taken out as 2008-2010 was a different time in the healthcare debate. The GOP is going to make Bernie sound like Hugo Chavez and tell boomers/seniors that M4A will mean they get less healthcare.... oh and the Bernie will turn America into Venezuela.
Yep. Dems gave up the PO thinking they would gain several GOP endorsers. They got none. Just the beginning in a long line of lucy-pulling-the-football-away-from-charlie-brown moments to come over the next 8 years.
I already pointed this out. There were a handful of Democratic cowards in the Senate they pulled the PO to appease. Several Republicans claimed they would sign off if the PO was pulled too. They did not. (shocked Pikachu face)
Yeah you continue to go with that. But just in case I am gonna leave this for you. Pretentious attempting to impress by affecting greater importance, talent, culture, etc., than is actually possessed. Where in that post is me trying to impress anyone? When have I ever tried to impress anybody on this site?
So the Rerpublican congress had nothing to do with Obama with Obama trying to moderate things? Do you realize the house had to change the ACA because democrats balked? Its starting to make total sense you must not realize how government actually works or a good grasp of history.
