When your ex regularly was gang banged by cartel members and dropped a bowling ball on your head while asleep... you can deal with the current girlfriend occasionally forgetting to turn off the stove. Im not sure why these clips of Biden are being passed around right wing social media because all it does is highlight how no one can compete with Trump on the bumbling dementia suffering windbag scale.
Krugman is careful and slick to limit his comments on some of Joe Biden's 2018 comments on social security. Actually Joe Biden has a long history of not being a great defender of social security. Obama-Biden Administration had to be beaten back by Sanders and other progressives on reducing the COLA on social security benefits. For a 40 year history of Biden's not so great support on social security. https://theintercept.com/2020/01/13/biden-cuts-social-security/ Biden has traditionally done this in the name of fiscal responsibility, but has changed his tone since the 2016 election. Given his strength particularly among the 65 year old crowd it is understandably a sensitive issue for Joe Biden.
I don’t worry as much about social security and a lot of other issues with a Biden admin because of the growing power of the progressive caucus with Bernie as their North Star. Especially when it comes to law making or repealing law, the progressives are going to be a growing factor for any Dem president to be forced to work with. Social Security will be fine with nearly any Dem. Even old a$$ Biden. I long for the day when the battle of ideologies within the Dem party is a relevant discussion. Right now should be most worried about the fact that we literally have a lawless Republican President trying to become an autocrat who can steal elections. Let’s find someone who wins the election with the largest margin and then continue to grow the power of the progressive caucus from the Congressional level. If that’s Bernie or Warren even better.
Krugman said all of that in his Oped and called out Obama as well. And said Biden needed to explain his thoughts. Does not look like you read the article.
Well social security will probably be safe now with Biden even if after Trump has created a huge deficit with his tax benefitting mostly the wealthy. However, it makes Biden, less electable as Trump will surely run all the old videos of Joe touting himself being so tough on the deficit that he proudly will cut even social security and medicare. Likewise with Joe pushing Dubya's Iraq War, especially among the Democrats as a key player as Chairman of the Senate Social Security Committee. Same w. mass encoarcertion, NAFTA and the bankruptcy bill. Hypocritical ? Of course !!, but we saw Trump use that playbook against Hilary successfully.
Oh yeah. I think Biden has major general election flaws to be exploited. I’ve said that before. I hope my posts don’t make it seem as though Biden is my first choice. Far from it. My thing with Biden is the African American vote. I think we as progressives (consider myself that despite what you might think) have to do reflecting on the entirety of the party when the decision comes down to who our nominee is. If the base of African Americans prefer Biden or whoever we as progressives need to listen to why that is and if that’s who their base supports we need to come together to support that nominee instead of playing the purity test and destroying that candidate to the point where we go into the General with a split party. It’s for this reason alone that I won’t be voting for mayor Pete in the Texas primary. If there is no African American, Latino, or Asian American support, we as Democrats have to respect that support. I think Bernie has had a good run the past few weeks and pealed some support from the college educated white liberals who were going back and forth for months on the flavor of the month. He’s going great, but I do NOT want to see Bernies camp go for blood now by splitting the party instead of making a case to his base first in a way that doesn’t cause division. Biden might have to be the Dem nominee despite his flaws in the general. There’s a reason though that he might keep the voters he needs to get out of the primary. Rather than just jumping to bad mouth and vilify why not just understand first his base of support and work to prove to them you have the best platform for them??
I'm so confused. You're going to defer to some voting bloc to determine how you will vote? Why not just vote how you want and then support whatever candidate comes out of the primary? I understand about keeping things collegial and not being divisive within the party, but don't get why it should impact your secret ballot.
I just think that the party talks a big game about supporting diversity & mostly wants to appeal to a larger base in good faith, but the party often doesn't listen enough and instead just talks about it. Look... I absolutely think people should vote for who they want to. Even if you are a white liberal. But when you see someone like Mayor Pete getting less than 1% of the African American vote, that should open your eyes, and make you ask questions. Same with the opposite in Biden. Why is it that Biden is so appealing. Maybe we should listen to that voting block and keep a more open mind to Biden because of their support. In 2016 Trump did suppress the hell out of African American voters. I sat next to one at work who told me "see... this is why I don't vote" which really was one of the first times that I started to freak out that Trump could win this thing. Hope that context makes a bit more sense now.
Well that is what the Bernie campaign is all about. That is why for instanced Bernie has been steadily chipping way at the gap between him and Biden in the deep South, and specifically So. Carolina where African American women voters come close to the majority. Their kids already know about Biden and his history or being a cheer leader for mass encarceration and are past the optics of Obama choosing him as his VP. Of course the deep South and So Carolina are some of the least likely states to actually vote Dem in the General.
What? Just because Trump and the Republicans want to cut SS doesn't mean we should ignore Joe's history of repetitively being willing, if not promoting cuts SS and medicare. These aren't words that accidentally fall out your mouth or that can be mistaken for anything other then what it is.
Joe Biden coauthored a bill with Strom Thurmond to bring civil asset forfeiture to the federal government for the first time. Sounds like an Onion headline but 100% true. Still marginally better than Trump!
So what happened to your claims that when we get to Iowa Biden would be in 4th place and an afterthought? What happened to he is getting by on name recognition alone? What happened to the progressives who would come together and propel a candidate over Biden. So whats your prognosis now?
SS and Medicare aren’t sustainable in their current forms. These clips don’t give much context. It should be put into context Joe Biden also improved Medicare with ACA, which shored up various aspects.
That last clip he was mocking Ryan not praising him. When has Biden said he wanted to cut these things in the last 3 years or so? You wanna talk about Bernies support by the NRA? https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-the-nra-helped-put-bernie-sanders-in- congress/2015/07/19/ed1be26c-2bfe-11e5-bd33-395c05608059_story.html https://www.marketwatch.com/story/l...st-money-from-the-gun-rights-lobby-2017-10-03 The only non-Republican in the top 25: Bernie Sanders, a Senate independent whose state, Vermont, has a strong hunting tradition. He accepted $11,129 in cash. Sanders, of course, challenged Hillary Clinton for the Democratic Party’s presidential nod. https://www.businessinsider.com/fac...ims-about-gun-record-democratic-debate-2019-7 Sanders also has a history of voting against gun control legislation. When Sanders was still in the US House of Representatives in 1993, he voted against the Brady Bill, which imposed a five-day waiting period and background checks on handgun purchases. Sanders in 2003 and 2005 also voted in favor of a bill (that became law in 2005) to shield gun manufacturers and dealers from lawsuits.
I don't think he was wasn't mocking Ryan. He was serious. No I don't want to talk about Bernie and NRA in a Biden thread on a discussion about Biden bragging about being willing to cut SS / medicare? What a weird thing to bring up.
