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The Chance of War with Iran

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by mtbrays, May 15, 2019.

  1. jiggyfly

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    Just like the deal with NK?
     
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    No it doesn't. It says exactly what I said. If you think the 1.7 billion in cash sent secretly in the dead of night on pallets was to 'pay off a debt' then you are incredibly naive. That's not how governments pay debts. That's how governments hide payoffs they know are immoral. They got caught and made up this crap.
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    Dude, part of the deal with Iran was unfreezing their assets. It's the same deal Trump would hypothetically make if Kim agreed to international nuclear arms inspectors in his country.

    That's what happens in deals. The bad state actor that is attempting to create nuclear arms gets their sanctions lifted and their assets unfrozen when the bad state actor gives into inspections and agrees to cease enriching uranium to weapons grade levels.
     
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  4. jiggyfly

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    You really don't have a clue.

    How do you know what they spent money on?

    Where are you getting this info?
     
  5. jiggyfly

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    What does any of this have to do with the fact that Trump li ed about having a deal with NK.

    Why should we believe him if he says a deal is made with Iran?
     
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    Becsuse if a deal with Iran wasnt in place we would have seen a much different response from Iran. Iran had zero intention to cause any damage after such a catastrophic event occurred by killing its second in command. I will guarantee you any tipjar bet that a deal will be in place by end of year.
     
  7. fchowd0311

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    Dear lord. Use the principle of Occam's Razor. A secret deal is in the word that makes Iran less likely to escalate to the point of commiting mass casualties of American troops or Iran showed some level of restraint because they didn't want to force Trump's hand in attempting forceful regime change.

    Iran doesn't want to be in a war with America more than America doesn't want to be in a war with Iran.

    To assume their type of attack implies a secret deal is in the works is stupid.

    Bet away with anyone who cares about your top jar bet.
     
  8. jiggyfly

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    If you say so, fake moderate.

    Why should anybody take what you say about these negotiations seriously.

    Khan needs to be worried about negotiating with India instead of Iran and the US.

    Why would Iran do a deal with Trump, how does that make them look.
     
  9. astros123

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    Regime change was never going to occur in Iran unless USA invaded Iran by ground. The regime there still has very strong backing from the clerks in Iran.

    Theres definitely a handshake deal in place and only time will tell. This is just my opinion. Ive studied Iranian politics for decades now and this has a deal written all over it.

    India doesnt wanna negotiate because there too busy pushing their hindu agenda.
     
  10. Os Trigonum

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    so why do you feel the need to resort to such a statement? you just make yourself look bad
     
  11. fchowd0311

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    You are either trolling or delusional. Iran definitely has cause for concern to believe that a strike that creates mass casualties of US troops would be the spark that led to a land invasion. They aren't going to take that risk unless Trump escalated further.

    There is absolutely zero evidence of a backroom deal and given that American presidents have term limits, Iran would rather wait it out to negotiate with someone who doesn't withdraw from a deal they were complying with.

    Many Iranian citizens don't hate westerners. That doesn't mean they don't hate Trump for enacting sanctions again after their side was complying with a deal that allowed Western investments in their country.
     
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    I think it's reasonable here seeing as @astros123 is using North Korean state tv levels of spin to paint Trump as a genius for creating a problem that didn't exist before and "solving it" and in this case "solving it" merely means short term escalation has ended.
     
  13. Os Trigonum

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    you probably know better than anyone that you can have an honest difference in opinion without having to have either your honesty or motivations called into question. I trust the poster's self-description and would just leave it at that.
     
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  14. jiggyfly

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    Ok I see you are just making **** up now.

    Later dude.
     
  15. fchowd0311

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    There is no honest difference of opinion here. Astro123 rhetoric is equivalent of North Korean State TV saying that Kim doesn't need to poop because he has no butthole.

    A "secret deal in the works"? What events of the past 2 years would lead anyone who isn't coming from a bad faith angle or isn't delusional conclude that?
     
  16. Os Trigonum

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    ok. I'll stay out of it.
     
  17. jiggyfly

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    Make myself look bad?

    Ha!

    Not as bad as you and he trying to get people to think you are moderates.

    I will continue to call you fake moderates out.
     
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  18. fchowd0311

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    I agree.
     
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    I never said that Trump wasnt a dumbass for retreating from the original deal. Iran has done alot for fighting against Isis and has helped stablized Iraq more then some know. Trump is a idiot for withdrawing from the original agreement and theres no doubt about that. Ive been following Iranian politics for decades now and i just sense that a 12th hour deal was made that none of us know. I have contacts in the Pakistani army and was made aware that Khan and his army staff were in constant talks with Iran throughout the night. Theres more to this story then we know. Thsts all im saying.

    Have a blessed day bro.
     

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