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"Washed up" Chris Paul is the best clutch player in the NBA and will be in All-Star Game this year

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by _RTM_, Dec 28, 2019.

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  1. YOLO

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    when you have cf's wannabe know it all throwing all kinds of shade towards someone who chose to be here to take out a dynasty when nobody else wanted to, yeah imma come out and say something.

    oh i like the rockets. I just prefer wb not to be on it. the same goes for any of the other low iq guys that put on a rockets uniform previously that weren't exactly good fits. doesn't mean i gotta go anywhere. Like i said, keep that same energy. don't get caught b****ing later on about anything westbrook. keep that same bootlicking nutriding attitude
     
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  2. larsv8

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    Its just odd that we have to live in some fantasy land about Westbrook.

    We can root for him, we can enjoy his contributions, we can celebrate him....

    But at the same time, we can be real. He isn't very good and this was a terrible trade.
     
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  3. DaBeard

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    He isn't very good yet was just an MVP a couple seasons ago and has been an all star basically this whole decade. Get outta here with your Westbrook hate
     
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  4. icewill36

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    chose to take out a dynasty ? he didnt even show up for 5 games. we never should have given him a max deal if thats how he was going to play, and thats why he is no longer here. cry me a river, build a bridge and get over it.
     
  5. larsv8

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    And you understand that he is a completely different player now from when he was MVP, correct? You understand that he has gone through a free fall decline over these past "couple seasons", right?

    Are we pretending this is 2017 Westbrook on the court every night?
     
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  6. YOLO

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    you might want to go refresh your memory on who was even carrying the rockets to that 3-2 lead on GS kid. it's obvious your iq isn't up to par with a lot of folks around here but hey wb's here yayyyyyyyy.

    if we don't hold hands and cheer together, go somewhere else according to @icewill36
     
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  7. icewill36

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    CF has taught me you can be a hall of fame player, multiple all star, and MVP yet not be good.

    lol. james harden sure does love playing with him. none of you have anything to say about how the team loves his positivity and rally around that. the way he uplifts this team makes us better.
     
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    what 3-2 lead ?? oh you mean the year before.... you just choose to ignore last year when he was stinking it up to try and support your argument. cp3 is gone, so you can leave with him.
     
  9. YOLO

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    considering you said he didn't even play 5 games, you made it seem that's what you were referencing

    and the guy who came in didn't do any better lol.
     
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    our record this year is a lot better than last year at this time.....and thats without EGO. works for me. sucks for you CPO fans
     
  11. YOLO

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    lmao considering the roster is entirely different. lets see if they can finish the season how they did a year ago when they both have the same team. Ill be sure to follow up on this without a doubt. don't go hiding
     
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    look at you. you are hoping that the rockets are worse just so you can be right. you are not a fan.
     
  13. YOLO

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    hoping? nah. but i've said the same thing I've said before. nothing changes just bc im talking to a bootlicker. if you wanna post the way you're posting, don't get upset when someone goes back. this ain't a 1 way thing
     
  14. jordnnnn

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    Haven't your heard?

    Once you are an all star and a MVP you are always an all star and MVP. Your play absolutely never declines.
     
  15. larsv8

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    We should go get Derrick Rose!
     
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  16. YOLO

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    melo is a hall of famer! he's going to be great here and still a great player!
     
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    He's averaging more ppg than that bum CP3 too
     
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    I only bring up these stats because YOU did. Remember? I'm the guy that is just simply looking at win loss records, I'm that guy. You were the one putting so much on stats like Net Rating. Me? Well, I realize it can be wrong and that it is also going to change all throughout the year too.

    Umm, yes, your team oriented stat still doesn't tell the complete story. You literally sitting here thinking PJ Tucker isn't valuable to the team because of a stat, not me.

    I'm the one looking at these stats and going...obviously Westbrook and Tucker are more valuable to the team than this stat implied and that this stat is wrong here.

    17/18
    CP3 was great, no one is denying that. All I said it isn't fair to compare that year to Westbrook just like it would not be fair for me to take old Westbrook ratings and insert them into the conversation. It's pointless any ways isn't it? We are talking about the now.

    18/19
    Role players are similar but the team is not. What was CP3s rating at around the same time, what was the teams rating?

    19/20
    Even if the Role players are better this year...as @icewill36 mentioned, the team is fully together finally. Ego has played what...one game with Westbrook? NBA.com's net rating for players is also influenced by who these guys are playing with.

    I mean, when you first brought this up, wasn't Westbrook's rating something really bad? Then, as the team gets healthier and more chemistry is added and more of an identity his rating goes up?

    It is amazing to me that Westbrook isn't given the same leash or leeway that any other player would get in this spot...coming off an injury and on a new team and not even half the season completed and we are already writing him off? Really?
     
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  19. jordnnnn

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    35 year old P.J. Tucker on the downside of his career on the last year of his deal making 8 million dollars and providing a +3.9 net rating for a +5.0 net rating team is understandable. He is overplayed and over taxed for his capability. A player this old and limited being one of our least impactful players should not be some big surprise or lead you to believe a stat is flawed.

    31 year old Westbrook making 38 million dollars(41, 44 and THEN 47 after this year) who has shown consistent decline over the last couple of years, providing a +3.8 net rating is not something we should feel good about. It should be a huge worry.

    The pushback on Westbrook is no different that with Lin and the LOF invasion. The pro Westbrook contingent has mostly ignored the realities of Westbrook. And the people who like to remain in reality don’t want to hear about how great Westbrook has been when he clearly has not been great over the entirety of the season. It seems as if you have come around on this idea by the last line of your post. There may be some legit excuses, but you can’t just explain away all his poor play on injury recovery and new teammates. Especially when some of the poor aspects of his play have been part of his game since his rookie year.

    Yes it’s possible things improve. Yes it’s possible we could become better than we were with Paul. BUT you would have to be living in fantasy land to ignore the reality of his decline and the overall poor play thus far. And recognize that those possibilities of improvement probably aren’t very likely based on that.
     
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  20. hakeem94

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    I bet you any money you wont find a single post on cf where @jordnnnn and @YOLO admitted they were wrong on anything.. actually this is pretty much a characteristic of most posters lol :D
    I love these guys don't get me wrong;) just a friendly reminder
     
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