There are far more reasons than that for guns. The right to defend oneself is a basic right free people have. The idea that banning something will make you safer is a false sentiment. Also prohibition didn't work. The war on drugs... didn't work. There are severe consequences to banning guns. You would also likely cause civil war. You are nuts if you are seriously proposing banning guns and I am sorry the school system failed you. Also we have restrictions and have had more gun control as time marches on. Mass shootings didn't get better.
You're in luck then, because most people are simply advocating for firearm restrictions that mirror the rest of the industrial world.
Yeah about those.. it will never be enough. There will always be danger. Once you accept that you don't live in bubble wrap the better. What restrictions do you want and why would it stop there? Your safety by restriction argument only has one direction and it doesn't work at the end of the day.
At least motor vehicles require a license for operation and registration for owning. How many vehicles driving around without plates? Why is so hard to ask that they only way you can purchase a gun is if you have a license and obtaining a license requires a process to ensure you a) know how to properly use a weapon and b) aren't a nut case? If we were to just enforce existing laws correctly and implement a few to keep guns out of the mentally unstable we'd probably be able to clean up a lot of these issues. Not 100% but even a 50% improvement is worthwhile.
why are right wingers constantly threatening civil war? bunch of barking chihuahas you aren't going to do chet but complain while a few of you go full terrorist and your movement loses steam
Legalize ICBMs. No restrictions! If I need 6 tons of hydrazine in a fueling tower in my back yard in case I have to respond to a provocation on a moment's notice, who are you to try and stop me! In other words, seems like we have a ton of restrictions and they seem to be doing a great job of reducing harm. Cant remember the last church shooting involving field artillery, and that makes me happy. There are some who like to set up a strawman where if one person is ever shot again, any gun control is a failure. Drugs are a great analogy. No DEA agent thinks they'll stop everybody from ever getting high again. What you dont want is gangs getting rich via distribution, and you dont want heroin dealers parking outside schools to hook middle schoolers. You keep the jungle as under control as possible.
Yeah, im not letting this flippant response go. Yes, crime of passion absolutely exists. This is why I believe anyone who does not go through routine training should not be allowed to have quick access to weapons. If you have been through the training, proved you are ready to handle a high adrenaline situation w/out making very avoidable mistakes, then sure, keep on my your night stand or even carry. This is very few people. The rest should keep their [toys] weapons well locked up. That said, there are several levels of hell a person must go through before they are ready to go on a mass killing spree. Failing your geometry test, getting cut off in traffic or getting rejected for asking for money isn't one, as you have implied.
I wouldn’t say threatening as much as having a fever dream about it. It’s a victimhood complex. Their entire alternate reality that has been cultivated for 2 decades revolves around the notion that they are actually the ones society has victimized. The liberals have been taking from them and giving their hard earned money to immigrants who use food stamps to buy lobster tails. The whole civil war thing is a fever dream. They’ll never actually organize and march on DC if a liberal wins. Voting for Trump was their version of marching on DC. None of them had the guts to even admit they voted for the guy. Millions of voters and virtually none of them could admit it. Does that strike you as a voting base with the balls to form an army and put up a resistance to the Pentagon controlled by a Democratic President??
Not a right winger. GDI and proud of it. Also not threatening civil war. It is the outcome I see happening.
It was only a matter of time before we had to outlaw cars in order to outlaw guns. Outlawing swimming pools is usually next. You're up Os.
So black market or every market. Is that my choice? Where does the black market get its guns? The gun fairy?
1) You're strawmanning by pretending that bubblewrapping the world and eliminating all harm and danger is the (only) goal. This is meant to stifle the conversation and not a good faith argument. 2) The amount of guns in this country, especially small arms, is an absolutely insane outlier. When you mix ubiquitous firearms and record levels of measurable societal decay (income inequality, life expectancy, bankruptcy... esp medical, underemployment, graduation rates, suicides, drug addiction) you're going to have a bad time. And I know this argument is coming, so I'll go ahead and premeptively address it... State (Cali) and especially city (Chicago) gun laws are like a wall of sand against a tsunami comparatively. These examples are also drowned out by a factor of thousands to one relative to the test kitchen that is the rest of the industrialized world.
I agree, and I never suggested otherwise. Note that "multiple people" does not mean "mass killing spree". A "bad moment" is meant to imply how one feels in said moment, not what the actual cause of that feeling is. Life is hard. We are all going to have moments of weakness, anger, etc (what precipitates those can be any number or variety of things). That point is that if a weapon is present, those temporary moments may end up with permanent outcomes.
