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2019: The Bench - How to best utilize them?

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by Rocket River, Nov 24, 2019.

  1. Rocket River

    Rocket River Member

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    Starters: Harden - Westbrook - House - Tucker - Capela --- Maybe sometimes EGo

    Next Tier Bench Players: Austin Rivers - Tyson Chandler - Isaiah Hartenstein - Chris Clemons - Gerald Greens

    Last Tier Bench Players: Ben McLemore - Thabo Sefolosha - (TW) - Gary Clark

    Unknown: Nenê Michael Frazier (TW)

    We need at least 20 points a game off the bench
    At least 5~8 assists
    At least 10~15 rebounds

    Which Players have the best shot at getting this?
    I know I know I been banging the Harty bell for a minute
    but
    I like several things about him
    1. Size - he has the height
    2. Touch - seems like he can shoot
    3. Energy - He is a try hard

    Clemons lacks size but i am liking his effort.
    I want Clark to get some burn too

    I missed McLemore's better games so i am jaded
    but i do not like his game

    Rocket River
     
  2. YOLO

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    with EG out, rivers should be leading the 2nd unit

     
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  3. BigBum

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    Nobody wants these benches. None of these guys have tradable values.
     
  4. jcmoon

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    I think we're just going to have to suffer until EG gets back. We are stuck with McClemore I doubt Clark is much better at D on the perimeter and probably can't shoot better....

    I love Clemons and ihart and wish coach would just play them.
     
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  5. J.R.

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    Fact of the matter there is no bench.

    Harden-Westbrook-House-Tucker-Capela

    Clark-Hartenstein-Clemons-Frazier: Coach will NOT PLAY (barring injury/blowout)
    Chandler-Sefolosha: RETIREMENT (Anything you get out of these guys, consider a bonus)
    Nene-Green: OUT INDEFINITELY
    Gordon: INJURED
    Rivers-McLemore: Scrubby (McLemore is a scrub and does NOT make Gordon expendable and Rivers lowkey bad -- 40/30/68/8 pts ... in 17 games, just in double figures 5 times. 4 points tonight)
     
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  6. OkayAyeReloaded

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    Our bench needs real work right now without Gordon.

    Per stats we're the lowest in the league in ppg from the bench, I'm not a huge stats expert but I did find numbers.

    Bench PPG league rankings (Houston last right now)
    https://stats.nba.com/teams/traditional/?StarterBench=Bench&SeasonType=Regular Season&sort=PTS&dir=-1

    But we're 11th in +/- before this game, which is good.
    https://stats.nba.com/teams/traditional/?StarterBench=Bench&SeasonType=Regular Season&sort=PLUS_MINUS&dir=-1

    Our bench is second to last in regular FG%
    https://stats.nba.com/teams/traditional/?StarterBench=Bench&SeasonType=Regular Season&sort=FG_PCT&dir=-1

    And 21st in three point%
    https://stats.nba.com/teams/traditional/?StarterBench=Bench&SeasonType=Regular Season&sort=FG3_PCT&dir=-1

    Long story short, if teams keep hitting us with the hard double to Harden every play we need the bench to step up and be consistent to make other teams respect thier offense.
     
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  7. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    Bench Westbrook.

    DD
     
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  8. Rocket River

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  9. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    LOL - dude, I am not kidding I can't stand to even watch him play it is so bad, he is out of control, can't shoot, but his ego and stature get him 20 shots a game.

    He is single handidly making this team way worse....and he is not going to be getting better.

    DD
     
  10. BaselineFade

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    The best way to utilize our bench is to play them. Even the young ones.
     
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    We have a bench, RR? Our coach doesn’t seem to think so, not really. He views our bench as consisting of two players, Rivers and McLemore, who were a combined 2 for 13 shooting, producing an amazing 4 points, and looking up at their defenders the entire time. Not really a bench. More like a love seat.

    The other 5 guys are clearly supposed to be paid cheerleaders. MDA stands there with arms akimbo, delighting in watching our star player wearing himself down trying to do everything. The fellow must consider Sefolosa too old, Clark and Hartenstein too young, with the equally young Clemons being too short. Production must not enter into his calculations. Hartenstein and Clemons have produced recently when given the chance. Clark has never been given the chance this season, not that I can recall. Meanwhile, the bench of Dallas was not only producing, but running wild.

    Not a fun game to watch. No, not fun at all. Time for another Pacifico.
     
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  12. bmelo

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    We have 6 NBA level players it is what it is. Rest is either a project, too old or scrub
     
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    Operation don’t panic. Get back to playing elite defense... Everything works when we get in transition.

    (Play faster too)
     
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  14. BigMaloe

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    We have the #1 starting lineup offense, but the #30 bench offense.

    Our bench sucks right now...
     
  15. elmotsang

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    Our bench players do not know how to play
     
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    Guys our bench should be #30 Gordon averages 16 ppg and Gerald Avgs 9 or 10 points Thats 40 just between those 2. We are going to struggle but that's ok the Team needs to learn to win with what we have. They will be fine we have to learn to play a bit more disciplined eliminate careless mistakes
     
  17. DreamShook

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    I like @PWR's idea of switching the stagger with Russ and Harden. Resting Harden first then letting Harden run with the 2n unit. It's a simple change that would automatically boost the bench and let Russ run with better players and shooters.
     
  18. elmotsang

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    If we don't have money, does the players in G league better than those players who score few points?
     
  19. Invisible Fan

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    Building a bench is a no no.

    The numbers don't like.

    -MDA 2016-present
     
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  20. Rocket River

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    If the G League MVP cannot get consistent run . . . . .. what makes us think ANY G Leaguer would?

    Rocket River
     
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