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[Official] Astros vs. Yankees ALCS

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Oct 12, 2019.

  1. sammy

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    JV and Cole in games 6 & 7. Way too much back and forth on what we know is going to happen.
     
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  2. RocketManJosh

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    If we get rained out, I would rather see Zack in game 4 and still do the bullpen in Game 5, leaving Verlander/Cole at home in games 6/7. Verlander has given up some deep fly balls to RF, and that really concerns me in Yankee stadium (not that Minute Maid is much deeper). I think I'd just like to give us the best chance to win with Verlander and Cole since that is all we need to win, and giving them the best opportunity means letting them do it at home. If we can steal game 4 or 5 without them, then that is an added bonus.
     
  3. count_dough-ku

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    Hmm, I guess that's another approach that could work, but it is kinda settling for a 7-game series which could impact the next round if the Astros advance.

    If Greinke loses Game 4 and you throw the bullpen out there for Game 5 in order to save Verlander for Game 6, then you're likely dooming yourself to a 3-2 deficit heading back to MMP. And even if you get out of that jam with Verlander and Cole winning their starts, that leaves the Astros going into the World Series with Greinke starting Game 1 on full rest and the bullpen going in Game 2. The way the Nationals starters are going, you could be down 2-0 heading back to DC.
     
  4. Houstunna

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    Don’t forget Cole in Game 6 equals short rest.

    Fully rested, I think most would start JV Game 5 (Cole 6) no matter what.
     
  5. jcee15

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    In a way, if every pitcher that the Astros face is worried about tipping pitches, it may be a good thing. Could cause them to over think their mechanics and make mistakes.
     
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    Assuming rain out today, I keep picturing in my head Verlander's reaction to Hinch telling Verlander, "We don't trust you to start on full rest against the Yankees in Yankee Stadium for Game 5".

    Why do Astros fans hate Hinch and want to subject him to this kind of violence?
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  8. Houstunna

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    Comparing Greinke’s 11 days rest to One extra day for Verlander ?!!!
     
  9. Hustle Town

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    Hinch’s rebuttal would be, “we want you starting Game 1 WS”.
     
  12. GradyMcTracy

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    We'll see you tomorrow night!
     
  14. Handles

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    If Greinke wins tomorrow I could see Verlander trying to close out on Friday. If Greinke loses I’d save verlander/Cole for games 6/7.

    But if Greinke wins that’d be so awesome. Then Verlander could try to close out Friday and still be available to pitch WS games 2 and 6. Cole would pitch WS games 3 and 7.
     
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    They postponed and watch it not even rain in NY
     
  16. count_dough-ku

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    Hang on. If both Greinke and Verlander win, Cole is pitching Game 1 of the World Series, not Game 3.
     
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  18. rocketpower2

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    All hands on deck for Game 4 with Greinke and the 'pen. Win and start JV, lose and go bullpen day.
     
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  19. Hustle Town

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    Baseball is a business, and they're not going to keep these games out of primetime. Regardless, win tomorrow night and gain flexibility on how to treat game 6.
     
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    why would they get rid of the travel day, day off?
    Nothing else going on.
     

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